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		<title>DaveGarber1975 at 23:13, 3 March 2006</title>
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Hmmm, do you think that we should divide up this section now?  If so, then I'd be happy to take on such a project.  Has anyone out there been making lots of new characters recently?  If so, then what do you think?  Thanks!  --[[User:DaveGarber1975|Dave Garber]] 16:25, 2 March 2006 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Hmmm, do you think that we should divide up this section now?  If so, then I'd be happy to take on such a project.  Has anyone out there been making lots of new characters recently?  If so, then what do you think?  Thanks!  --[[User:DaveGarber1975|Dave Garber]] 16:25, 2 March 2006 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;Hmmm, no responses yet?  Well, I just created a new warrior and found that I could train its wis, con, and int fully (or nearly so) when it reached level 3 and its 'boost' disappeared.  I think that, with these newer stat-training costs, most new characters can start thinking about AC and mana and such much earlier now than they could have done a year ago.  And, considering that, I think that separating Newbie Gear would be helpful.  And I can't see how it could do any harm.  So, here goes...  --[[User:DaveGarber1975|Dave Garber]] 18:13, 3 March 2006 (EST)&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>DaveGarber1975 at 21:25, 2 March 2006</title>
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;I'll just change top hat to be lowmort 10-21 gear then. --[[:User:Ylem|Ylem]]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;I'll just change top hat to be lowmort 10-21 gear then. --[[:User:Ylem|Ylem]]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;Hmmm, do you think that we should divide up this section now?  If so, then I'd be happy to take on such a project.  Has anyone out there been making lots of new characters recently?  If so, then what do you think?  Thanks!  --[[User:DaveGarber1975|Dave Garber]] 16:25, 2 March 2006 (EST)&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>Ylem at 20:34, 2 March 2006</title>
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		<updated>2006-03-02T20:34:50Z</updated>

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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;The reasoning behind not creating [[:Category:Lowmort 1-10 Mana Gear]] (or tank/hit/archer) was that characters in this low level range tend to concentrate on obtaining [[:Category:Level Gear|Level Gear]] more than anything.  Only after they're capable of maxing their stats through gear do most players start worrying about gear that will improve their ac or hr/dr.  That being said, lowmort stats are now '''much''' cheaper to train than they used to be, and this could mean that level gear is now less important to lowbies.  If you want to wade through [[:Category:Lowmort 1-10 Gear]] and sort it into hit, tank, mana I won't stop you.  But yeah, you basically got it right: we never felt a need to distinguish between different types of gear at this low level range.  There isn't a huge distinction between the different classes before level 12: everyone just runs arounds and solos using their melee attacks.  Therefore everyone tends to run around in (more or less) the same type of gear.  --[[User:Waite|Waite]] 14:08, 2 March 2006 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;The reasoning behind not creating [[:Category:Lowmort 1-10 Mana Gear]] (or tank/hit/archer) was that characters in this low level range tend to concentrate on obtaining [[:Category:Level Gear|Level Gear]] more than anything.  Only after they're capable of maxing their stats through gear do most players start worrying about gear that will improve their ac or hr/dr.  That being said, lowmort stats are now '''much''' cheaper to train than they used to be, and this could mean that level gear is now less important to lowbies.  If you want to wade through [[:Category:Lowmort 1-10 Gear]] and sort it into hit, tank, mana I won't stop you.  But yeah, you basically got it right: we never felt a need to distinguish between different types of gear at this low level range.  There isn't a huge distinction between the different classes before level 12: everyone just runs arounds and solos using their melee attacks.  Therefore everyone tends to run around in (more or less) the same type of gear.  --[[User:Waite|Waite]] 14:08, 2 March 2006 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;I'll just change top hat to be lowmort 10-21 gear then. --[[:User:Ylem|Ylem]]&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>Waite at 19:08, 2 March 2006</title>
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				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l1&quot; &gt;Line 1:&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Is there any specific reason there is no lowmort 1-11 mana gear section. Was modifying [[Top Hat]] and realized that none existed. Little need or just not have the need yet? --[[:User:Ylem|Ylem]]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Is there any specific reason there is no lowmort 1-11 mana gear section. Was modifying [[Top Hat]] and realized that none existed. Little need or just not have the need yet? --[[:User:Ylem|Ylem]]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;The reasoning behind not creating [[:Category:Lowmort 1-10 Mana Gear]] (or tank/hit/archer) was that characters in this low level range tend to concentrate on obtaining [[:Category:Level Gear|Level Gear]] more than anything.  Only after they're capable of maxing their stats through gear do most players start worrying about gear that will improve their ac or hr/dr.  That being said, lowmort stats are now '''much''' cheaper to train than they used to be, and this could mean that level gear is now less important to lowbies.  If you want to wade through [[:Category:Lowmort 1-10 Gear]] and sort it into hit, tank, mana I won't stop you.  But yeah, you basically got it right: we never felt a need to distinguish between different types of gear at this low level range.  There isn't a huge distinction between the different classes before level 12: everyone just runs arounds and solos using their melee attacks.  Therefore everyone tends to run around in (more or less) the same type of gear.  --[[User:Waite|Waite]] 14:08, 2 March 2006 (EST)&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>Ylem at 18:37, 2 March 2006</title>
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		<updated>2006-03-02T18:37:49Z</updated>

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&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;Is there any specific reason there is no lowmort 1-11 mana gear section. Was modifying [[Top Hat]] and realized that none existed. Little need or just not have the need yet? --[[:User:Ylem|Ylem]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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