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Amagadon at 20:31, 11 September 2023

2023-09-11T20:31:04Z

3nki: /* Armor Class Advice for Lord Tanks */

2021-06-01T21:56:14Z

Armor Class Advice for Lord Tanks

3nki: /* Armor Class Advice for Lord Tanks */

2021-06-01T21:45:11Z

Armor Class Advice for Lord Tanks

3nki: /* Armor Class Advice for Lord Tanks */

2017-11-11T15:13:02Z

Armor Class Advice for Lord Tanks

3nki: /* Armor Class Advice for Lord Tanks */

2012-08-12T21:37:24Z

Armor Class Advice for Lord Tanks

Belag: Added info about guard break

2012-06-09T18:30:12Z

Added info about guard break

3nki: /* Armor Class Advice for Lord Tanks */

2012-06-09T04:55:28Z

Armor Class Advice for Lord Tanks

3nki: /* Armor Class Advice for Lord Tanks */

2012-05-14T20:25:57Z

Armor Class Advice for Lord Tanks

3nki: /* Armor Class Advice for Lord Tanks */

2012-05-14T20:23:14Z

Armor Class Advice for Lord Tanks

3nki: /* Armor Class Advice for Lord Tanks */ trying to add some more details here, plz feel free to modify

2012-05-14T20:13:43Z

Armor Class Advice for Lord Tanks: trying to add some more details here, plz feel free to modify

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	[[:Category: Characters \|Characters]] may [[Wear \|wear]] [[:Category: Tank Gear \|gear to increase their armor class]], which is commonly called "[[:Category: Tank Gear \|tank gear]]" because it is particularly useful to [[Tanks \|tanks]]. Most wearable [[:Category: Objects \|objects]] are of [[:Category: Object Types \|type]] "[[:Category: Armor \|armor]]" and, thus, have a certain "[[Armor Values \|base armor class]]," which ranges from 0–2 AC for [[Object Level \|level]]-1 [[:Category: Objects \|objects]] to 10–12 AC for [[Object Level \|level]]-51 [[:Category: Objects \|objects]] (see [[Armor Values \|Armor Values]] for more information on this subject). [[:Category: Characters \|Characters]] who [[Wear \|wear]] an [[:Category: Objects \|object]] with a certain [[Armor Values \|base armor class]] will usually find their total armor class improved (decreased) by at least this amount, if not by more (see table below for details). Furthermore, an [[:Category: Objects \|object]] of ''any'' [[:Category: Object Types \|type]] (not just [[:Category: Armor \|armor]]) may [[Object Affects \|affect]] its wearer's total armor class by some additional amount, either for the better or for the worse—an [[Object Affects \|affect]] that is completely independent from that of any [[Armor Values \|base armor class]] that it may or may not have. Most prime [[:Category: Tank Gear \|tank gear]], in fact, has 'both' (1) has a [[Armor Values \|base armor class]] ''and'' (2) provides an additional armor-class-improving [[Object Affects \|modifier]].		[[:Category: Characters \|Characters]] may [[Wear \|wear]] [[:Category: Tank Gear \|gear to increase their armor class]], which is commonly called "[[:Category: Tank Gear \|tank gear]]" because it is particularly useful to [[Tanks \|tanks]]. Most wearable [[:Category: Objects \|objects]] are of [[:Category: Object Types \|type]] "[[:Category: Armor \|armor]]" and, thus, have a certain "[[Armor Values \|base armor class]]," which ranges from 0–2 AC for [[Object Level \|level]]-1 [[:Category: Objects \|objects]] to 10–12 AC for [[Object Level \|level]]-51 [[:Category: Objects \|objects]] (see [[Armor Values \|Armor Values]] for more information on this subject). [[:Category: Characters \|Characters]] who [[Wear \|wear]] an [[:Category: Objects \|object]] with a certain [[Armor Values \|base armor class]] will usually find their total armor class improved (decreased) by at least this amount, if not by more (see table below for details). Furthermore, an [[:Category: Objects \|object]] of ''any'' [[:Category: Object Types \|type]] (not just [[:Category: Armor \|armor]]) may [[Object Affects \|affect]] its wearer's total armor class by some additional amount, either for the better or for the worse—an [[Object Affects \|affect]] that is completely independent from that of any [[Armor Values \|base armor class]] that it may or may not have. Most prime [[:Category: Tank Gear \|tank gear]], in fact, has 'both' (1) has a [[Armor Values \|base armor class]] ''and'' (2) provides an additional armor-class-improving [[Object Affects \|modifier]].
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		+	Per Malaclypse and verified in Sept 2023, 2 handed weapons with AC modifiers provide 2x the AC value from the modifier when wielded. If a 2H wield has -20 AC, it will show as -40 AC when used on the character.
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	'''[[Object Slots \|Object Slot]]: [[:Category: Objects \|Object]] Improves AC by... (with [[Armor Optimization \|Armor Optimization]])		'''[[Object Slots \|Object Slot]]: [[:Category: Objects \|Object]] Improves AC by... (with [[Armor Optimization \|Armor Optimization]])

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 for un-spelled in tank gear i'd say -1200 is good for mon/shf, about -1400 for those with a wield and off-hand (i.e, everyone else).
-'''Note''': Super high AC at lord is not as useful as at hero, because many big lord mobs have [[Guard Break]], which will allow them to hit you hard even if you have high AC. Anything better than 1900-2k ac (spelled) is usually good enough. I'm not sure how veil affects this. [[Saving Throw |Saving throw]] is also important.
+'''Note''': Super high AC at lord is not as useful as at hero, because many big lord mobs have [[Guard Break]], which will allow them to hit you hard even if you have high AC. Anything better than 1900-2k ac (spelled) is usually good enough. I'm not sure how veil affects this. [[Saving Throw |Saving throw]] is also important, sometimes more than AC (check [[:Category:Lord Save Vs Spell Gear |Lord Save Vs Spell Gear]]).
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 note: these numbers are with full kra spells (about -589 ac from spells)
-* -1800 work on getting better gear
+* -1800 work on getting better gear (decent for mon/shf)
 * -1900 decent (good for mon/shf)
-* -2000 good
+* -2000 good (quite good for mon/shf)
-* -2100 quite good
+* -2100 quite good (really good for mon/shf)
-* -2200 really good
+* -2200 really good (impossible for mon/shf?)
 of course there are modifiers, for example if you're a brute race with low dex and high hp that can accomodate a lower number, or if you're a mon/shf a lower number would be expected (no wield or off-hand takes away roughly -150 to -225 ac depending on gear), etc. etc.

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 for un-spelled in tank gear i'd say -1200 is good for mon/shf, about -1400 for those with a wield and off-hand (i.e, everyone else).
-'''Note''': Super high AC at lord is not as useful as at hero, because many big lord mobs have [[Guard Break]], which will allow them to hit you hard even if you have high AC. Anything better than 1900-2k ac (spelled) is usually good enough. I'm not sure how veil affects this.
+'''Note''': Super high AC at lord is not as useful as at hero, because many big lord mobs have [[Guard Break]], which will allow them to hit you hard even if you have high AC. Anything better than 1900-2k ac (spelled) is usually good enough. I'm not sure how veil affects this. [[Saving Throw |Saving throw]] is also important.
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 of course there are modifiers, for example if you're a brute race with low dex and high hp that can accomodate a lower number, or if you're a mon/shf a lower number would be expected (no wield or off-hand takes away roughly -150 to -225 ac depending on gear), etc. etc.
-for un-spelled in tank gear i'd say -1300 is good for mon/shf, about -1500 for those with a wield and off-hand (i.e, everyone else).
+for un-spelled in tank gear i'd say -1200 is good for mon/shf, about -1400 for those with a wield and off-hand (i.e, everyone else).
 '''Note''': Super high AC at lord is not as useful as at hero, because many big lord mobs have [[Guard Break]], which will allow them to hit you hard even if you have high AC. Anything better than 1900-2k ac (spelled) is usually good enough. I'm not sure how veil affects this.
 [[Category: Characters]] [[Category: Gameplay]]

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	for un-spelled in tank gear i'd say -1300 is good for mon/shf, about -1500 for those with a wield and off-hand (i.e, everyone else).		for un-spelled in tank gear i'd say -1300 is good for mon/shf, about -1500 for those with a wield and off-hand (i.e, everyone else).
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		+	'''Note''': Super high AC at lord is not as useful as at hero, because many big lord mobs have [[Guard Break]], which will allow them to hit you hard even if you have high AC. Anything better than 1900-2k ac (spelled) is usually good enough. I'm not sure how veil affects this.

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	of course there are modifiers, for example if you're a brute race with low dex and high hp that can accomodate a lower number, or if you're a mon/shf a lower number would be expected (no wield or off-hand takes away roughly -150 to -225 ac depending on gear), etc. etc.		of course there are modifiers, for example if you're a brute race with low dex and high hp that can accomodate a lower number, or if you're a mon/shf a lower number would be expected (no wield or off-hand takes away roughly -150 to -225 ac depending on gear), etc. etc.
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		+	for un-spelled in tank gear i'd say -1300 is good for mon/shf, about -1500 for those with a wield and off-hand (i.e, everyone else).

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 == Armor Class Advice for Lord Tanks ==
--2000 seems pretty good (with full spells)
+note: these numbers are with full kra spells
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