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2020-06-06T19:40:59Z

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Category talk:Hero Missile Weapons

2016-09-22T20:48:46Z

Kerd: commentary

Anyone free to put in a quick discussion on how to compare HR vs Max? I seem to remember an online discussion on how there was a bug with either restring or enchant bow and the result was a change in the formula to adjust for that bug. I did a quick search on the wiki and didn't find anything. For example a Max 75/HR 21 bow versus a Max 72/HR 22 bow. One has a higher HR one has a higher Max. Which should be used?

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In my theorycrafting, 1 avg w/ 2 max difference in a highly restrung bow is about even with 3hr assuming you have full archer gear and mods. For example: My 60-67-75 22 draw str 27hr bow hits very similarly to my 60-68-77 24ds 21hr bow. Both bows tested on the same Cen Arc for a couple runs. Which granted isn't enough to be definitive in any way; just personal experience. (And yes, i could tighten the ds 22 bow more; but it's my only dbrill bow right now and ds 22 is usable by more races).

So for your example, barring a really good or really bad average, the M72 22hr bow will probably hit slightly better than the m75 21hr; but be close enough that you'd have to go many many runs to see a noticible difference assuming the wield is the only difference in gear and mob selection.

The bug if I recall right was you could tighten, loosen below 20 draw strength without a chance at a mess up or snap of the bow. Essentially you could tighten/loosen until you brill restrung the bow as many times as you wanted. The fix was to have the chance for something to go wrong or snap the bow occur at any draw strength level. Though i'm not sure on the snap though since I can't remember the last time i snapped a bow.--[[User:Kerd|Kerd]] ([[User talk:Kerd|talk]]) 16:48, 22 September 2016 (EDT)
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Whetstone

2016-09-16T18:47:31Z

Kerd: Confirmed Bodyguards can loot whetstones

''This whetstone looks like it could [[Sharpen |sharpen]] any cutting/piercing [[:Category: Melee Weapons |weapon]].''

Is big enough to be used 30 more times.

'''Keyword(s):''' whetstone. 
'''[[Object Level |Level(s)]]:''' various (see chart below). 
'''[[:Category: Object Types |Type]]:''' [[:Category: Trash |trash]]. 
'''[[Object Slots |Slot(s)]]:''' <held>. 
'''[[Object Quality |Quality]]:''' 200 hps. 
'''[[Object Weight |Weight]]:''' 1 lbs. 
'''[[:Category: Object Flags |Flag(s)]]:''' none. 

== Comments ==

[[:Category: Warriors |Warriors]] must use whetstones to [[Sharpen |sharpen]] [[:Category: Melee Weapons |weapons]].

Data above is from the [[:Category: Igecsoz |Igecsoz]] whetstone; other stones may or may not be different.

Note that only [[:Category: Warriors |warriors]], [[:Category: Bodyguards |bodyguards]], (and maybe similar classes) can loot whetstones. If someone else gets the kill then the whetstone disappears.

== Directions ==

'''[[Object Level |Level]]: [[:Category: Areas |Area]]: [[:Category: Maps |Map]]: [[:Category: Mobs |Mob]]/[[:Category: Ticket Quests |Quest]]/[[:Category: Rooms |Room]]:'''
41-43 [[:Category: Githzerai Tower |Githzerai Tower]] [[Githzerai Tower Map |map]] [[Githzerai Weaponsmith |the githzerai weaponsmith]]
47-49 [[:Category: Kzinti Outpost |Kzinti Outpost]] [[Kzinti Outpost Map |map]] [[Kzinti Weaponsmith |The Kzinti weaponsmith]]
50-52 [[:Category: Igecsoz |Igecsoz]] [[Igecsoz Map |map]] [[Keep Weaponsmith |The Keep Weaponsmith]]
125 [[:Category: Arcadia |Arcadia]] [[Southern Advisor]]
125 [[:Category:Kzinti Spire Of War|Kzinti Spire Of War]] [[Kzinti Weaponsmith (Kzinti Spire Of War)|The Kzinti weaponsmith]] (Level one)

See individual [[:Category: Mobs |mob]]/[[:Category: Ticket Quests |quest]] pages linked above for more information.

[[Category: Gear In Githzerai Tower]]
[[Category: Gear In Igecsoz]]
[[Category: Gear In Kzinti Outpost]]
[[Category: Trash]]
[[Category: Lowmort 41-50 Gear]]
[[Category: Hero Gear]]

Talk:Main Page

2016-05-29T01:02:09Z

Kerd: recent

== BUG ALERT ==
The sidebar links are broken for "Recent Changes" and "Related Changes", which give ERROR 404 - Not Found!.--[[User:3nki|3nki]] ([[User talk:3nki|talk]]) 16:48, 28 May 2016 (EDT)

I think that happens when there are no 'Recent Changes' to show. Havent checked the Related changes link before; so not sure on that one
--[[User:Kerd|Kerd]] ([[User talk:Kerd|talk]]) 21:02, 28 May 2016 (EDT)

Something odd going on – all pages of the wiki have some message appearing at the top. Anyone have any ideas? It's a long line of text, something from ReCaptcha.php line 54.
--[[User:3nki|3nki]] 00:46, 30 June 2014 (EDT)

: I emailed Waite a couple of days ago, quoting the bug text, but no response yet. They do tend to get snowed under by masses of work, and I did mention the bug appeared to be cosmetic only, so when it will get fixed - I have no idea. Hopefully, it isn't symptomatic of something more serious. --[[User:Qismat|Qismat]] 10:37, 30 June 2014 (EDT)

: This should be fixed now. Let me know if any other problems crop up. [[User:Waite|Waite]] 17:15, 30 June 2014 (EDT)

== Orphaned pages ==

looking at [[:Special:LonelyPages|Orphaned pages]]. i'm figuring i'll fix a few every so often, maybe we can gradually clean it up and also increase cross-linking between pages. one thing i can't see how to do however is [[:Category:Delete|delete pages]]--[[User:3nki|3nki]] 02:47, 14 May 2014 (EDT)

:The category system/format we are using guarantees vast numbers of apparently orphaned files. The majority of mobs, items and quests are only linked to their area via category links - which do not count as far as the orphan list is concerned. We would need to add lists to the area page in order to make any real dent in the orphan list. --[[User:Qismat|Qismat]] 10:46, 30 June 2014 (EDT)

== Facelifting the main page ==

Does anyone have any objections to replacing the main page with [[User:WinterRose/Draft|a facelift]]? Please respond either here or on the [[User_talk:WinterRose/Draft|talk page]] with any suggestions or improvements needed before going live. Thank you! [[User:WinterRose|WinterRose]] 13:40, 14 October 2012 (EDT)

: The current layout of the main page replacement as seen [[User:WinterRose/Draft|here]] is more or less in the final stage. I've received positive comments from half a dozen people in-game and some suggestions that resulted in modifications, so this version is the result of all that. Does anyone have any further suggestions on how to make it more appealing to new players? [[User:WinterRose|WinterRose]] 04:58, 15 October 2012 (EDT)

== Signing your entries in talk pages ==
I'm not sure where the best place to put this is, but I want to remind everybody to sign their entries in talk pages, two dashes followed by 4 tildes '<nowiki>--~~~~</nowiki>' or just click the button that is second from the right on the top of the edit box. --[[User:Mel|Mel]] 10:15, 12 Jan 2006 (EST)

:Also, when you're replying to something on a talk page, feel free to use this fancy feature (watch start of line)
::It works really well! just add one colon (:) at the start of the lines more than the previous reply had! --[[User:MooNFisH|Llanor]] 17:30, 5 February 2007 (CST)

== Spam or Bot Accounts ==
i guess it's just something to live with.. but it seems there's another bout of bot account creation.. sorry if there's somewhere else i should post regarding this. --[[User:3nki|3nki]] 00:22, 10 October 2011 (CDT)

:There are only so many 2-letter names they can register. Does registering require an email check? That might slow it down. [[User:WinterRose|WinterRose]] 07:21, 10 October 2011 (CDT)

all these apparently random letter and number mixed names lately are most likely spam bots, it seems to me, or bots of some kind. not sure what their goal is. --[[User:3nki|3nki]] 20:28, 12 January 2012 (CST)

Most likely they want to boost the pagerank of their crappy website by linking to it from here. We've all but disabled external links though, so they don't get very far. I'm not too concerned about them creating accounts, but let me know if they ever cause any more serious mischief. [[User:Waite|Waite]] 09:56, 13 January 2012 (EST)

== Style sheets ==
I do a lot of style sheet and web programming for my work and I've thought of making a general style sheet for the wiki. My idea is (something like this anyway) that we inventory what we need, what kind of titles and headlines and various types of elements, tables and so on, for all the pages on the AV wiki. Then we make a stylesheet that incorporates all the commonalties on a base level (like font type, base size, site wide stuff) and also has a set of classes for people to reference as needed in specific situations. That way we have something everyone uses for consistency. If we want to change it we can, but it will be consistent. Of course we'd add to it as we go.. what does everyone think? There must be a way to include a reference to this style sheet in every page of the wiki automatically. --[[User:3nki|3nki]] 02:03, 20 October 2011 (CDT)

There sure is. In the parlance of MediaWiki, these are called skins. You can actually use a different skin without affecting anyone else: go to "my preferences" (in the upper right) and then Appearances. I'm reluctant to drastically change the appearance of our wiki (mostly because I don't want to deal with the complaints) but if you come up with something nice I'm willing to have an open mind. [[User:Waite|Waite]] 08:50, 20 October 2011 (CDT)

interesting - trying out skins now. there's one called MySkin so i guess there's a way to edit that somewhere.--[[User:3nki|3nki]] 19:35, 20 October 2011 (CDT)

== Creating new pages ==
(Sorry if you don't like that I deleted all the discussion from before on this subject, but you were talking nonsense.) In the Search box, type the exact title you wish to use for your wiki page and press 'Go'. If this page doesn't exist yet, the option 'Create This Page' will be clearly visible after you've pressed 'Go'. Click that. Wow, it's that simple. --[[User:MooNFisH|Llanor]] 17:17, 5 February 2007 (CST)

== Naming Convention ==
*(If this is covered somewhere else please let me know where.)
What is the naming convention? Every word for titles (items, rooms, mobs, etc.) has its first letter capitalized, right? Even connectors like A, I, If, Or, Of, etc. "Mega's Spark In A Bottle", not "Mega's Spark in a Bottle"... or the in-game way it's spelled, "mega's Spark in a Bottle". --[[User:3nki|3nki]] 22:25, 27 September 2011 (CDT)

[[Contributing]] has a section about naming. --[[User:Ylem|Ylem]] 23:12, 27 September 2011 (CDT)

== Contact Information ==

It may be helpful to provide some means of contacting those folks in charge of this site.

:If you really want to contact a user of this wiki, just edit their talk page.

== Some custom insertion buttons ==

See all those edit buttons above the edit box? It would be nice if some of those pertained to the Avatar Wiki. For example, it's monotonous to code a bunch of mob/object/area emplates for however many pages you have to do, so some buttons could add those templates, appropriately hyperlinked, into the editbox for us to use. Giving us one-click access to template code would also help standardize the page layouts. If you're interested, the appropriate code lies in [h{{ttp}}://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/EditPage.php EditPage.php] (all the way at the bottom). --[[User:Neyne|Neyne]] 20:59, 1 March 2006 (EST)

== Navigation Panel ==

We can change what links appear in that navigation panel on the left side of the screen. Suggestions? I don't want to make it too cluttered, so just a few choice links that would be more useful than "donations" or "random page" [[User:Waite|Waite]] 10:59, 11 May 2007 (CDT)

I think we should put the [[:Special:Random| Random Page]] link in the left sidebar. It's a fun link, there's a lot of content on the wiki this might help expose.--[[User:3nki|3nki]] 18:27, 17 May 2015 (EDT)

== Category label in pages ==

i've noticed some items have "Category:" in front of their name and others of similar status or type do not. for example, classes ("Category:Psionicists") have it while most races do not. looking at my "view and edit watchlist" page i noticed because it puts Firedrakes in the "Main" list, whereas pages like Imps, Psionicists, and Transfigured Forest show up under the "Category" list.

just wondering what the details are; is there an in-progress movement to move towards or away from using "Category:" with the names? or some such...
--[[User:3nki|3nki]] 19:12, 3 August 2011 (CDT)

A long while ago, someone went a bit nutty with categories and now it would take so much work to untangle it that it probably isn't worth the effort. Your best bet to make it easier to search is to create redirect pages that point to the appropriate category. Look at the area pages to see the syntax. (I did all those before, including Transforest as you noticed, and I have no burning desire ever to do it again. *shudder carpaltunnel*)

But to answer your question, I would ''love'' to move away from using categories for things like areas and classes, but not particularly in favor of refactoring the existing pages. --[[User:Neyne|Neyne]] 21:42, 3 August 2011 (CDT)

speaking of categories... it would be nice if there was a page to see all mobs that stomp. the current page [[Stomping Mobs|Stomps]] doesn't list the actual mobs just describes the trait. as do similar [[Mob Types]] pages like [[Sniping Mobs]] or something. and i tried but it won't let me flag a mob that is a stomper with that category (like the [[Death Knight General]]). i'm trying to get it to show up there like [[Mobs In Necromancer's Tower]] does at the bottom of his page. then eventually we could use that tag for other stomper mob pages and build up a list. would be nice if all the [[Mob Types]] showed which mobs were flaged for each actually, but i guess that would be a pain to do ;) --[[User:3nki|3nki]] 23:44, 3 August 2011 (CDT)

On each page on the left you will see a "What links here" link. Click on that to see all the pages that references that page. So you will get all the mobs that link to the [[Stomping Mobs|Stomping]] page. However, that is a toolbox way of handling the issue. If you feel a need - fill it. --[[User:Ylem|Ylem]] 06:42, 4 August 2011 (CDT)

Early on, we decided to use a lot of categories for any page that seems like it would logically "contain" other pages. The main motivation behind this is that categories give you lists for free. Instead of manually keeping a page like [[:Category:Gear In Wamphyri Aerie|Gear In Wamphyri Aerie]] up-to-date the wiki does it for us. I also tried to get the wiki to search for categories by default, but this doesn't seem to be working anymore (if it ever did). I'll see what I can do to fix this. One possibility is to use a Google search plugin instead of MediaWiki's built-in search.

Re: list of stomping mobs. This is the exactly the type of situation that categories were made for. It's pretty easy to set up, just add <nowiki>[[Category:Stomping Mobs]]</nowiki> or so to every such mob.

== Uploading XML or TXT files ==
We're running into a problem with CMud scripts exported as XML files. Apparently, the Wiki is reading certain characters as their ASCII code, rather than the character required by CMud to import the XML file for later use.

Is there anyway we could enable uploading of XML or TXT files so we can then link them to the correct script pages?
--[[User:Shalineth|Shalineth]] 16:57, 30 September 2011 (CDT)

I just enabled uploading of .xml and .txt files. Let me know if this doesn't solve the problem. [[User:Waite|Waite]] 21:31, 30 September 2011 (CDT)

A way to solve this if you have to turn uploads off is -

<nowiki>

< pre >
< nowiki >

code with your &lt in here

< /nowiki >
< /pre >

(had to put spaces in the <> show it properly delete them to get it to work :/ )

</nowiki>

EG:
<pre>
<nowiki>
look a &lt and a &gt :)
</nowiki>
</pre>

--[[User:Rhodry|Rhodry]] 10:55, 1 October 2011 (CDT)

== Organizing quest pages ==

I've increasingly noticed a lot of players asking about quests for their level, and I realized that none of the quests on the wiki are organized by level range. Solution: create and populate categories for quests in the same level ranges as areas and gear, which is easy, if a bit demanding on my carpals. But in addition to that, do we want to restructure the quest pages altogether to separate the quest descriptions from their solutions? I was thinking of just separating them into different sections on the page, but maybe they could be separated by putting the descriptions on the "Category:Quests in Wherever" page, and the solutions in the individual quest pages. (I think it would be too much page bloat to create entirely new pages for quest solutions.) Thoughts?
--[[User:Neyne|Neyne]] 10:47, 11 October 2011 (CDT)

I would split descriptions and solutions personally as not everyone wants to see the solution straight away, although personal opinion for me would be to also include the reward in the description. --[[User:Rhodry|Rhodry]] 11:06, 11 October 2011 (CDT)

Okay, how does this look to you: [[:Category:Quests In Walking Woods]] Following that model, all "Category:Quests in Wherever" page will contain the descriptions/setups to each of the quests in that area, and be in the "Lowmort X-X/Hero Quests" category (and more than one of those categories if necessary). Think that covers everything?--[[User:Neyne|Neyne]] 10:51, 13 October 2011 (CDT)

Hmmm too bad we don't have a spoiler tag tho google says there is one via an installable extension. That way we could have descriptions and solutions on the same page. I personally would have Quests in walking woods category left as it used to be. then in the quest for lowmorts 11-20 category have something like this.

Walking Woods Plague Quest.

The area is overrun with undead, and the dying Captain Balgaar needs help.

Level Range - Solo 20s, Grouped 15-19. 
Level Limits - None. 
Starting Point - [[Captain Balgaar]] in the [[:Category:Walking Woods|Walking Woods]]. 
Difficulty - Medium. 
Prize - [[Stonehall Hammer]]. 
Solution - [[Walking Woods Plague Quest]] 

Another quest goes here.

Formatted up of course with spoiler tags you could have solution changed to more info and hide the solution on that page in spoiler tags.
The reason being people are going to want to find this info easily rather than having to go to each "Such And Such Quest" or "Quests In" page to find out --[[User:Rhodry|Rhodry]] 18:54, 13 October 2011 (CDT)

Well, that ''could'' be a pain to maintain, since the "Lowmort X-X Quests" categories would be LONG once they're all filled up with content. But it would be doable, as long as we figure out a decent way to sort them all (perhaps group them by reward type, i.e. Insignia/Gear/Weapon/Gold&Gems/XP etc.)

Also, if the "Quests in Wherever" categories are going to remain empty, I would suggest nixing them entirely and sticking quest pages directly in their area categories. Currently, all they do is stick another mouse click between you and the page you really want to see, and the vast majority of them only contain one quest.

In either case, I think we should plan on not having access to a spoilers tag. If we get one, that'll be icing on the delicious quest cake. --[[User:Neyne|Neyne]] 20:55, 13 October 2011 (CDT)

<spoiler text="Who da man?">Waite</spoiler>

Heh Thanks Waite :)

The "quests in wherever" should probably stay as some areas have multiple quests across various levels.
The way of organising them on the "Lowmort X-X Quests" pages is up for discussion could use a table I just listed the info I would personally would want to know if I was going to look at that page --[[User:Rhodry|Rhodry]] 21:15, 13 October 2011 (CDT)

Hmm - I think spoiler text should be used <spoiler text="first of all for this">Helpful hints and non specific tips.</spoiler>and then <spoiler text="secondly for this">Actually how to do the quest.</spoiler>bearing in mind of course that some quests have been requested not to have ANY spoilers posted about them, either indefintely, or for a certain period.--[[User:Shadowtop|Shadowtop]] 06:22, 14 October 2011 (CDT)

I agree with Rhodry's suggestion here. I think "Lowmort X-X Quests" (and above) should have a sortable table with some choice information for each quest.

*Suggested level (maybe a range)
*Area
*Brief description
*Reward

Missing anything? [[User:Waite|Waite]] 10:12, 14 October 2011 (CDT)

[[:Category:Lowmort 11-20 Quests]] what do you think? Off the top of my head, reward types should probably include Weapon, Gear, Insignia, Gold, Healies (potions/pills/staves/wands/scrolls), and Spellcasting (non-healing potions, etc).--[[User:Neyne|Neyne]] 12:08, 14 October 2011 (CDT)

== Racial Stuff ==

Added racial characteristics and groups to Elf and Drow. Just a suggestion for a way to do it. I'll leave it there and it can be expanded on if liked. I put a line of text in each category which is just an educated guess - there are no helps, it seems, yet. I used a sub-page style for the categories initially because of "faerie races" and "faerie race" being quite different things, but it will also help to group them nicely on other category pages and group lists - and they can still be piped in the body text of articles. --[[User:Caoimhe|Caoimhe]] 02:23, 18 July 2014 (EDT)

== Size ==

If someone has a FDK or IMP of the various evolutions please update the size charts on their respective pages. I did the low hero evolution for both already.--[[User:3nki|3nki]] 12:44, 18 July 2014 (EDT)

Category:Hero Missile Weapons

2011-08-23T04:12:59Z

Kerd: eragora sling

{{Weapon Quick-Links}}

== Suggested Weapons ==

Currently, the best hero missile weapons are:

* For [[:Category: Archers |archers]] [[Hitters |hitting]]: [[Moonlight Arc]] (+21hr), [[Bow Of Aranor]] (+19hr), or [[Red Bone Bow]] (+18hr).
* For [[:Category: Archers |archers]] [[Tanks |tanking]] or soloing: [[Bow Crafted Of Willow Bark]] (+15hr) or [[Hand Crossbow]] (+10hr).
* For [[:Category: Fusiliers |fusiliers]]: [[David's Sling]] and some [[:Category: Throwing Weapons |throwing weapon]], or a (+22hr) sling from Eragora.
* For [[:Category: Druids |druids]]: [[Black Bow Named Scorn]] (+15 hr, +75 mana)
See also [[:Category: Arrows |Arrows]].

[[Category: Missile Weapons]]
[[Category: Hero Archer Gear]]

Ithonng

2011-08-04T00:49:52Z

Kerd: ID'd corpse, lv90.

''Resplendent in black brocade robes embroidered and trimmed with grey silk, the master arcanist glares at you momentarily speechless with fury. This man is not to be trifled with!''

'''Keywords:''' Ithonng, Chief, Arcanist 
'''[[Level |Level]]:''' 90. 
'''[[Alignment |Alignment]]:''' demonic. 
'''[[:Category: Mob Types |Flags]]:''' [[Sentinel Mobs|steadfast]]. 
'''Affects:''' [[Detect Hidden|detect hidden]], [[Detect Invis|detect invisible]], [[sanctuary|sanctuary]], [[aggy|aggy]] . 

== Gear ==

Ithonng, Chief Arcanist is using:
<worn on body> [[Mantle Of The Master Arcanist|the mantle of the master arcanist]]

== Comments ==

Sub area is no [[regeneration |regeneration]].

== Directions ==

'''[[:Category: Areas |Area]]:''' [[:Category: Citadel Of Arcanists |Citadel Of Arcanists ]] ([[Citadel Of Arcanists Map |Map]]). 
'''[[:Category: Rooms |Room(s)]]:''' Chamber of the Arcanist .

Kill [[Clockwork Homunculus]] and get the [[Heavy Silver Key]]. Directions: pp clock homun.

Get the [[Runed Tower Key]]. Directions: pp [[Vymm]], 2s requires the [[Heavy Silver Key]]

Kill the [[Empty Servitor]] to spawn the [[Silent Slice Of Void]]. Then, kill the [[Silent Slice Of Void]] and get the [[Cold Iron Master Key]]. Directions: pp [[Vymm]], su3eu, requires the [[Runed Tower Key]].

Go up from the [[Empty Servitor]]/[[Silent Slice of Void]] room. Directions: pp [[Vymm]], su3e2u, requires [[Cold Iron Master Key]].

[[Category: Mobs In Citadel Of Arcanists]]

Talk:Worship

2011-07-19T03:18:02Z

Kerd:

== Verifying Worship Information ==

I'm taking it upon myself to make sure that the information in our worship table is correct. I'll be recording raw data from my experiments here. [[User:Waite|Waite]] 14:27, 6 May 2006 (EDT)

Thanks so very much, Waite, for working on this! Ummm, are you sure that Shizaga steals pracs when training? Thanks! --[[User:DaveGarber1975|Dave Garber]] 15:03, 6 May 2006 (EDT)

Pretty sure shz is bad for adepting. I'll find out for sure soon enough. My hypothesis is that worship messes with your "effective int" in terms of practicing. So, if you're a cen mag shz, when you practice you'll still adept in three, because having one less int doesn't move you into the "adept in 4" int range. [[User:Waite|Waite]] 18:31, 6 May 2006 (EDT)

Probably going to be difficult to test this due to the general lack of Qxl characters, but I'm pretty sure that Qxl no longer has the xp gain penalty. People hated that it had both an xp penalty and the triple death penalty, so the xp penalty went. --[[User:Neyne|Neyne]] 12:55, 7 May 2006 (EDT)

I agree that it'll be tough. Exp gained is one of the facets of worship that I won't be able to verify, simply because the same mobs provide less exp as you kill them over and over. The only way to verify these numbers will be to run with groupies who have experience counters, and compare the results at the end of the run. Hopefully you're right about qxl exp gained, as it is now there seems to be an awful lot of red in his column... [[User:Waite|Waite]] 16:16, 7 May 2006 (EDT)

Liewellyn (dragon cleric) just went shz for lowhero based on some data here. He checked regen before and after for mana, and was same. Hp regen was reduced like suggested in table. Heals and divs were both -10% for inclass healing (cleric) and not +10% for inclass like suggested, confirm/update table please? --[[User:Laventish|Laventish]] 04:28, 20 October 2006 (CDT)

Confirmed the healing penalty with Uan (lizard cleric) a while ago. I confronted an imm (I believe it was Cerdwyn) because Pantheon Courtyard indicates that Shizaga does help healers. ''"She speaks of the clerics Shizaga has gained, miffed that only the mages think they are the chosen followers. In return for the clerics devotion, Shizaga long ago touched them with her healing grace."'' Cerdwyn hinted that Shizaga helps healers in other ways than hit points healed, but I have not yet determined what that means.--[[User:Neyne|Neyne]] 15:47, 20 October 2006 (CDT)

Just changed shizaga's healing bonus per your results. Thanks for posting them here. It's a shame that you had to figure this out with a dragon :/ BTW, at some point in the past I was told by an imm that this chart is "wrong in multiple places". Hence my (stalled) project of verifying the info. One of these days when I'm not quite as busy I'll get back to work on it... [[User:Waite|Waite]] 15:02, 23 October 2006 (CDT)

Anecdotal evidence suggests that Gorn neither helps nor hinders archery damage. Anyone know for sure?--[[User:Neyne|Neyne]] 17:53, 24 August 2007 (CDT)

I ran an athiest mage with one worshipping Bhyss. On more than one occassion, we had multiple successive rounds in which we cast disint at the exact same time. Leads me to believe that Bhyss doesn't have a spell lag penalty, or at least doesn't for damage spells. If anyone definitively proves I'm wrong, feel free to edit/flame. :) --[[User:Neyne|Neyne]] 01:39, 26 August 2007 (CDT)

=== HP Regen ===
This data was collected by repeatedly killing a lvl 10 hum war and watching him regen. I was quite surprised by how much the numbers varied, but I repeated the process enough times that I'm confident these numbers are correct.
{| border="2" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="0" align="center" style="text-align:center"
|-
| Deity
| HP:tick
|-
|ath
|29
|-
|bhy
|26
|-
|dur
|29
|-
|grn
|24
|-
|kra
|24
|-
|qxl
|23
|-
|rxa
|29
|-
|shz
|24
|-
|tor
|30
|-
|tul
|34
|-
|wer
|29
|}

=== Death costs ===
Same alt, lvl 10 hum war
{| border="2" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="0" align="center" style="text-align:center"
|-
|deity
|tnl before death
|exp loss
|-
|ath
|614
|386
|-
|bhy
|807
|72
|-
|dur
|173
|433
|-
|grn
|606
|216
|-
|kra
|216
|588
|-
|qxl
|135
|1296
|-
|rxa
|199
|720
|-
|shz
|104
|448
|-
|tor
|552
|212
|-
|tul
|764
|118
|-
|wer
|602
|199
|}

=== Practicing ===
This test was performed with a lvl 10 drw cle, who had 20(23) int

{| border="2" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="0" align="center" style="text-align:center"
|-
| Deity
| 1st prac
| 2nd prac
| 3rd prac
| 4th prac
| 5th prac
|-
|ath
|39
|67
|90
|95
|
|-
|bhy
|37
|63
|84
|95
|
|-
|dur
|40
|68
|92
|95
|
|-
|grn
|46
|77
|95
|
|
|-
|kra
|35
|60
|81
|95
|
|-
|qxl
|31
|54
|74
|91
|95
|-
|rxa
|39
|67
|90
|95
|
|-
|shz
|37
|63
|84
|95
|
|-
|tor
|35
|60
|81
|95
|
|-
|tul
|39
|67
|90
|95
|
|-
|wer
|37
|63
|84
|95
|
|}

=== Spell Cost ===
Same alt, lvl 10 drw cle. Comparing costs of prayer

{| border="2" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="0" align="center" style="text-align:center"
|-
| Deity
| cost
|-
|ath
|31
|-
|bhy
|27
|-
|dur
|31
|-
|grn
|32
|-
|kra
|31
|-
|qxl
|32
|-
|rxa
|31
|-
|shz
|29
|-
|tor
|34
|-
|tul
|31
|-
|wer
|34
|}

Verified [[Quixoltan |Quixoltan]] spell cost penalty. Cen Qxl costs 96mana for enchant, athiest/kra/roix cost 90.

===
 
So, I think Tor does nothing for HP gains. Pre tor, my kzn rog got 7-9 for hp gains... now they still do. Also should be noted that the mana gains have gone down, but I still get 2 max, only less frequently.

 
I'm starting to think that Quixoltan does not actually help with mana gains. I've got a Centaur Mage worshipping Quixoltan that averages less than 7 mana per level at lowmort, with a TON of 3 mana gains. Seems low for a god that is supposed to help mana gains.--[[User:Kerdor|Kerdor]] 11:43, 7 January 2007 (CST)

This sort of thing will be hard to verify, but I can add some evidence in favor of your assertion. When I first became a lord I went qxl for genesis. After multiple tries I ended up with great hp, but only average mana. [[User:Waite|Waite]]

Perhaps it might be worth having Lordcouncil/Immortals look into improving Quixoltan, either by increasing benefits; or removing weaknesses; as right now there is little reason to worship Quixoltan. --[[User:Kerdor|Kerdor]] 11:12, 8 January 2007 (CST)

Tinkered around with open hand damage. The ones that weakened were obvious, but only Gorn produced an easy to see difference. I was testing with a level 12 monk though, so not sure if I was getting a large enough spread. The ones that looked the same were Qxl, Rxa, Shz, Tor, Wer --[[User:Masamune|Masamune]] 20:35, 10 January 2007 (CST)

Hope I got this right. Qxl spells are 57 tics in duration (tested on Fly), Shiz is 50, Kra/Athiest is 48. 20%>Athiest (Edited main worship page) --[[User:Kerdor|Kerdor]] 17:59, 11 January 2007 (CST)

More Misc Qxl stuff. 34 int (max for Hero Cen Stm Qxl) - takes 3 to adept. 52, then 86, then 95%. --[[User:Kerdor|Kerdor]] 20:23, 12 January 2007 (CST)

Played with rogue damage with a human rogue, using sneak attack. I worsened a couple of the gods, since I noticed Bhy and Qxl were slightly worse, but not as bad as Grn. --[[User:Masamune|Masamune]] 21:31, 16 January 2007 (CST)

I didn't even know gods modified this, but Shizaga appears to have a reduced xp penalty for fleeing. Two hero characters, one shz one athiest, fled a couple times from the same mob: the shz lost ~30 each time, the ath lost ~60 each time. Weird.--[[User:Neyne|Neyne]] 01:25, 31 August 2007 (CDT)

Just noticed on a lowmort liz mag. Qxl gave 4 pracs on level while no worship gave 6.-[[User:Rhodie|Rhodie]] August 08

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I thought all gods still would occasionally weaken, even if they have good responses? --[[User:Arcano|Arcano]] 15:10, 14 May 2008 (EDT)

After worshipping Gorn, my toss fail lag went from 5 rounds to 3. I'm guessing this is because toss is a monk skill. --[[User:MooNFisH|Llanor]] 20:15, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

The worship page displays Bhyss as giving worse mana gains when leveling, but the cell's background is light blue. I'm not 100% on it being better mana gains, so I'm going to leave it alone for somebody who knows for sure to change it or post which is the case here.--[[User:Slowdraw|Slowdraw]] 21:31, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

from discussions in mud, bhy only gives a slight bump to mana gains when devoted due to the extra int point. not sure how to reference that in the chart, maybe "better" and light blue with a foot note explaining that you need to be devoted to see a benefit?--[[User:3nki|3nki]] 00:56, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

I would mark it as "same". Devotion stats are handled on a separate page. I think we all understand that extra int yields more mana, extra con more hp, extra str more HR/DR, etc. No need to complicate the worship table with this information. [[User:Waite|Waite]] 14:09, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

----
Zephan> You almost dull crom's Pointy Stick, but Tul-Sith steadies your hand!
[228 Hero War Spr Tul M ] Zephan the Exemplary Slayer

Worship

2011-07-19T03:17:10Z

Kerd: Tul Improves sharpen

{{Character Quick-Links}}

''This is a big step in your life. Unlike the whimsical religions of other worlds, the choosing of a [[:Category: Gods And Goddesses |God or Goddess]] for devotion becomes permanent. The reason for this is that the [[:Category: Gods And Goddesses |gods]] take an active role once they have you within their flock and they will not [[Unworship |release your soul]] once they have it. There are many perks and negatives to worshipping a [[:Category: Gods And Goddesses |god]] on Avatar. You will have to research, ask around, or take a guess as to whether or not a religion is something you really wish to do. Some [[:Category: Gods And Goddesses |Gods]], like [[Bhyss |Bhyss]], have only a few benefits (although attractive to some) and many small negatives. The addition of religion to your life, however, will create a more unique experience for you. The choice is yours.''

''You'll find with certain gods and goddesses that the effects of your spells are modified. For example, a cleric/priest who worships [[Tul-Sith]] can expect to heal 300hp with a single divinity, while others can expect less than that. The atheist rate on that is 250hp, so [[Tul-Sith |Tul-Sith]] offers a 20% increase in healing effectiveness.''

''Worship can also affect things like spell duration, ac provided by spells, and melee effectiveness. An example of this would be the [[Kra |Kra]] armor class bonus, or the [[Quixoltan]] duration bonus. [[Werredan |Werredan]] is known to provide bonuses to XP as well.''

{| border="1" cellpadding="1" cellspacing="0" align="center"
|+ '''<big>Worship Effects Table</big>'''
|-
! align="center" style="background:#ffdead;" colspan=2 | EFFECTS PER DEITY
! align="center" style="background:#ffdead;width:48px" | [[Bhyss |Bhy]]
! align="center" style="background:#ffdead;width:48px" | [[Durr |Dur]]
! align="center" style="background:#ffdead;width:48px" | [[Gorn |Grn]]
! align="center" style="background:#ffdead;width:48px" | [[Kra |Kra]]
! align="center" style="background:#ffdead;width:48px" | [[Quixoltan |Qxl]]
! align="center" style="background:#ffdead;width:48px" | [[Roixa |Rxa]]
! align="center" style="background:#ffdead;width:48px" | [[Shizaga |Shz]]
! align="center" style="background:#ffdead;width:48px" | [[Tor |Tor]]
! align="center" style="background:#ffdead;width:48px" | [[Tul-Sith |Tul]]
! align="center" style="background:#ffdead;width:48px" | [[Werredan |Wer]]
|-
! align="left" style="background:#efefef;" colspan=2 | [[Leading Ability |Group Leadership Capacity]]
| align="center" style="background:#ffdddd;color:#ff0000" | -2
| align="center" style="background:#ffeeee;color:#ff0000" | -1
| align="center" style="background:#ffffff;color:#ffffff" | 0
| align="center" style="background:#ccccff;color:#0000ff" | +3
| align="center" style="background:#bbbbff;color:#0000ff" | +4
| align="center" style="background:#ffcccc;color:#ff0000" | -3
| align="center" style="background:#ffffff;color:#ffffff" | 0
| align="center" style="background:#ffffff;color:#ffffff" | 0
| align="center" style="background:#ffffff;color:#ffffff" | 0
| align="center" style="background:#ddddff;color:#0000ff" | +2
|-
! align="left" style="background:#efefef;" rowspan=2 | Regeneration Rate
! align="left" style="background:#efefef;" | [[Hit Points |Hit Points]]
| align="center" style="background:#ffdddd;color:#ff0000" | -10%
| align="center" style="background:#ffffff;color:#ffffff" | 00%
| align="center" style="background:#ffdddd;color:#ff0000" | -10%
| align="center" style="background:#ffdddd;color:#ff0000" | -10%
| align="center" style="background:#ffbbbb;color:#ff0000" | -20%
| align="center" style="background:#ffffff;color:#ffffff" | 00%
| align="center" style="background:#ffbbbb;color:#ff0000" | -10%
| align="center" style="background:#eeeeff;color:#0000ff" | +05%
| align="center" style="background:#bbbbff;color:#0000ff" | +20%
| align="center" style="background:#ffffff;color:#ffffff" | 00%
|-
! align="left" style="background:#efefef;" | [[Mana Points |Mana Points]]
| align="center" style="background:#ffdddd;color:#ff0000" | -10%
| align="center" style="background:#ffffff;color:#ffffff" | 00%
| align="center" style="background:#ffdddd;color:#ff0000" | -10%
| align="center" style="background:#ffdddd;color:#ff0000" | -10%
| align="center" style="background:#ffbbbb;color:#ff0000" | -20%
| align="center" style="background:#ffffff;color:#ffffff" | 00%
| align="center" style="background:#ffffff;color:#ffffff" | 00%
| align="center" style="background:#ffffff;color:#ffffff" | 00%
| align="center" style="background:#bbbbff;color:#0000ff" | +20%
| align="center" style="background:#ffffff;color:#ffffff" | 00%
|-
! align="left" style="background:#efefef;" rowspan=2 | [[Cast |Spellcasting]]
! align="left" style="background:#efefef;" | Cost
| align="center" style="background:#ddddff;color:#0000ff" | -10%
| align="center" style="background:#ffffff;color:#ffffff" | 00%
| align="center" style="background:#ffeeee;color:#ff0000" | +05%
| align="center" style="background:#ffffff;color:#ffffff" | 00%
| align="center" style="background:#ffeeee;color:#ff0000" | +05%
| align="center" style="background:#ffffff;color:#ffffff" | 00%
| align="center" style="background:#eeeeff;color:#0000ff" | -05%
| align="center" style="background:#ffdddd;color:#ff0000" | +10%
| align="center" style="background:#ffffff;color:#ffffff" | 00%
| align="center" style="background:#ffdddd;color:#ff0000" | +10%
|-
! align="left" style="background:#efefef;" | Lag
| align="center" style="background:#ffffff;color:#ffffff" | 00%
| align="center" style="background:#ffdddd;color:#ff0000" | +10%
| align="center" style="background:#ffffff;color:#ffffff" | 00%
| align="center" style="background:#ffdddd;color:#ff0000" | +10%
| align="center" style="background:#ffdddd;color:#ff0000" | +10%
| align="center" style="background:#ffffff;color:#ffffff" | 00%
| align="center" style="background:#ddddff;color:#0000ff" | -20%
| align="center" style="background:#ffffff;color:#ffffff" | 00%
| align="center" style="background:#ffffff;color:#ffffff" | 00%
| align="center" style="background:#ffffff;color:#ffffff" | 00%
|-
! align="left" style="background:#efefef;" rowspan=2 | [[Cast |Spellcasting]]: Buffing
! align="left" style="background:#efefef;" | Amount[8]
| align="center" style="background:#ffdddd;color:#ff0000" | -10%
| align="center" style="background:#eeeeff;color:#0000ff" | +05%
| align="center" style="background:#bbbbff;color:#0000ff" | +20%
| align="center" style="background:#ccccff;color:#0000ff" | +15%
| align="center" style="background:#ffbbbb;color:#ff0000" | -10%
| align="center" style="background:#ffcccc;color:#ff0000" | -15%
| align="center" style="background:#ffdddd;color:#ff0000" | -10%
| align="center" style="background:#eeeeff;color:#0000ff" | +05%
| align="center" style="background:#ddddff;color:#0000ff" | +10%
| align="center" style="background:#ffffff;color:#ffffff" | 00%
|-
! align="left" style="background:#efefef;" | Duration
| align="center" style="background:#ffffff;color:#ffffff" | 00%
| align="center" style="background:#eeeeff;color:#0000ff" | +05%
| align="center" style="background:#ffdddd;color:#ff0000" | -10%
| align="center" style="background:#ffffff;color:#ffffff" | 00%
| align="center" style="background:#bbbbff;color:#0000ff" | +20%
| align="center" style="background:#ffffff;color:#ffffff" | 00%
| align="center" style="background:#eeeeff;color:#0000ff" | +05%
| align="center" style="background:#ffffff;color:#ffffff" | 00%
| align="center" style="background:#ffeeee;color:#ff0000" | -05%
| align="center" style="background:#ffffff;color:#ffffff" | 00%
|-
! align="left" style="background:#efefef;" colspan=1 | [[Cast |Spellcasting]]: Healing
! align="left" style="background:#efefef;" | Amount
| align="center" style="background:#ffbbbb;color:#ff0000" | -20%
| align="center" style="background:#ffdddd;color:#ff0000" | -10%
| align="center" style="background:#ddddff;color:#0000ff" | +10%
| align="center" style="background:#ccccff;color:#0000ff" | +10%
| align="center" style="background:#ffeeee;color:#ff0000" | -10%
| align="center" style="background:#eeeeff;color:#0000ff" | +05%
| align="center" style="background:#ffdddd;color:#ff0000" | -10%
| align="center" style="background:#ff8888;color:#ff0000" | -30%
| align="center" style="background:#bbbbff;color:#0000ff" | +20%
| align="center" style="background:#ffbbbb;color:#ff0000" | -10%
|-
! align="left" style="background:#efefef;" colspan=2 | Physical Ability Lag
| align="center" style="background:#ffffff;color:#ffffff" | same
| align="center" style="background:#ffdddd;color:#ff0000" | +10%
| align="center" style="background:#bbbbff;color:#0000ff" | -20%
| align="center" style="background:#ffdddd;color:#ff0000" | +10%
| align="center" style="background:#ffbbbb;color:#ff0000" | +20%
| align="center" style="background:#ffffff;color:#ffffff" | same
| align="center" style="background:#ffffff;color:#ffffff" | same
| align="center" style="background:#ffffff;color:#ffffff" | same
| align="center" style="background:#ffffff;color:#ffffff" | same
| align="center" style="background:#ffffff;color:#ffffff" | same
|-
! align="left" style="background:#efefef;" rowspan=6 | Combat Damage
! align="left" style="background:#efefef;" | [[Open Hand |Hand-to-Hand]]
| align="center" style="background:#ffdddd;color:#ff0000" | worse
| align="center" style="background:#ffdddd;color:#ff0000" | worse
| align="center" style="background:#bbbbff;color:#0000ff" | best
| align="center" style="background:#ffbbbb;color:#ff0000" | worst
| align="center" style="background:#ddddff;color:#0000ff" | better
| align="center" style="background:#ffffff;color:#ffffff" | same
| align="center" style="background:#ffffff;color:#ffffff" | same
| align="center" style="background:#ffffff;color:#ffffff" | same
| align="center" style="background:#ffdddd;color:#ff0000" | worse
| align="center" style="background:#ffffff;color:#ffffff" | same
|-
! align="left" style="background:#efefef;" | Melee Weapon
| align="center" style="background:#ddddff;color:#0000ff" | better
| align="center" style="background:#ffffff;color:#ffffff" | same
| align="center" style="background:#ffffff;color:#ffffff" | same
| align="center" style="background:#ddddff;color:#0000ff" | better
| align="center" style="background:#ddddff;color:#0000ff" | better
| align="center" style="background:#ffdddd;color:#ff0000" | worse
| align="center" style="background:#ffdddd;color:#ff0000" | worse
| align="center" style="background:#bbbbff;color:#0000ff" | better
| align="center" style="background:#ffdddd;color:#ff0000" | worst
| align="center" style="background:#bbbbff;color:#0000ff" | best
|-
! align="left" style="background:#efefef;" | Rogue Damage
| align="center" style="background:#ffdddd;color:#ff0000" | worse
| align="center" style="background:#ddddff;color:#0000ff" | better
| align="center" style="background:#ffbbbb;color:#ff0000" | worst[5]
| align="center" style="background:#ffbbbb;color:#ff0000" | worst
| align="center" style="background:#ffdddd;color:#ff0000" | worse
| align="center" style="background:#ffffff;color:#ffffff" | same
| align="center" style="background:#ddddff;color:#0000ff" | better
| align="center" style="background:#bbbbff;color:#0000ff" | best
| align="center" style="background:#ffbbbb;color:#ff0000" | worst
| align="center" style="background:#ffbbbb;color:#ff0000" | worst[1]
|-
! align="left" style="background:#efefef;" | Psi (telekinetic)
| align="center" style="background:#ffdddd;color:#ff0000" | worse
| align="center" style="background:#ffffff;color:#000000" | ??
| align="center" style="background:#ffffff;color:#000000" | ??
| align="center" style="background:#ff7777;color:#ff0000" | halved
| align="center" style="background:#ddddff;color:#0000ff" | better
| align="center" style="background:#ffffff;color:#000000" | ??
| align="center" style="background:#bbbbff;color:#0000ff" | best
| align="center" style="background:#ffffff;color:#000000" | ??
| align="center" style="background:#ffffff;color:#000000" | ??
| align="center" style="background:#ffffff;color:#000000" | ??
|-
! align="left" style="background:#efefef;" | Missile Weapon
| align="center" style="background:#ffffff;color:#000000" | ??
| align="center" style="background:#ddddff;color:#0000ff" | better
| align="center" style="background:#ffffff;color:#000000" | ??
| align="center" style="background:#ff7777;color:#ff0000" | halved
| align="center" style="background:#ffffff;color:#000000" | ??
| align="center" style="background:#bbbbff;color:#0000ff" | best
| align="center" style="background:#ffdddd;color:#ff0000" | worse
| align="center" style="background:#ffffff;color:#000000" | ??
| align="center" style="background:#ffdddd;color:#ff0000" | worse
| align="center" style="background:#ddddff;color:#0000ff" | better
|-
! align="left" style="background:#efefef;" | [[Cast |Spellcasting]]
| align="center" style="background:#bbbbff;color:#0000ff" | best
| align="center" style="background:#ffdddd;color:#ff0000" | worse
| align="center" style="background:#ffffff;color:#ffffff" | same
| align="center" style="background:#ff7777;color:#ff0000" | halved
| align="center" style="background:#ddddff;color:#0000ff" | better
| align="center" style="background:#ffdddd;color:#ff0000" | worse
| align="center" style="background:#ddddff;color:#0000ff" | better
| align="center" style="background:#ffdddd;color:#ff0000" | worse
| align="center" style="background:#ffdddd;color:#ff0000" | worse
| align="center" style="background:#ffffff;color:#ffffff" | same
|-
! align="left" style="background:#efefef;" colspan=2 | Combat [[Experience Points |Experience-Point]] Gains
| align="center" style="background:#ffffff;color:#ffffff" | 00%
| align="center" style="background:#ffbbbb;color:#ff0000" | -10%
| align="center" style="background:#ffffff;color:#ffffff" | 00%
| align="center" style="background:#ffffff;color:#ffffff" | 00%
| align="center" style="background:#ffffff;color:#ffffff" | 00%
| align="center" style="background:#ffbbbb;color:#ff0000" | -05%
| align="center" style="background:#eeeeff;color:#0000ff" | +05%
| align="center" style="background:#ffffff;color:#ffffff" | 00%
| align="center" style="background:#ffdddd;color:#ff0000" | -10%
| align="center" style="background:#ddddff;color:#0000ff" | +10%
|-
! align="left" style="background:#efefef;" colspan=2 | Death [[Experience Points |Experience-Point]] Losses
| align="center" style="background:#bbbbff;color:#0000ff" | -25%
| align="center" style="background:#ffdddd;color:#ff0000" | +10%
| align="center" style="background:#ffffff;color:#ffffff" | 00%
| align="center" style="background:#ff9999;color:#ff0000" | +50%
| align="center" style="background:#ff7777;color:#ff0000" | +200%
| align="center" style="background:#ff8888;color:#ff0000" | +80%
| align="center" style="background:#ffffff;color:#ffffff" | 00%
| align="center" style="background:#ddddff;color:#0000ff" | -05%
| align="center" style="background:#ffffff;color:#ffffff" | 00%
| align="center" style="background:#ffffff;color:#ffffff" | 00%
|-
! align="left" style="background:#efefef;" rowspan=3 | Levelup Gains
! align="left" style="background:#efefef;" | [[Hit Points |Hit Points]]
| align="center" style="background:#ffdddd;color:#ff0000" | worse
| align="center" style="background:#ffffff;color:#ffffff" | same
| align="center" style="background:#ffffff;color:#ffffff" | same
| align="center" style="background:#ffffff;color:#ffffff" | better
| align="center" style="background:#ddddff;color:#0000ff" | better
| align="center" style="background:#ddddff;color:#0000ff" | better
| align="center" style="background:#ffffff;color:#ffffff" | same
| align="center" style="background:#ffffff;color:#ffffff" | same
| align="center" style="background:#bbbbff;color:#0000ff" | best
| align="center" style="background:#ddddff;color:#0000ff" | better
|-
! align="left" style="background:#efefef;" | [[Mana Points |Mana Points]]
| align="center" style="background:#ffffff;color:#ffffff" | same
| align="center" style="background:#ffffff;color:#ffffff" | same
| align="center" style="background:#ffffff;color:#ffffff" | same
| align="center" style="background:#ffffff;color:#ffffff" | better
| align="center" style="background:#bbbbff;color:#0000ff" | best
| align="center" style="background:#ffffff;color:#ffffff" | better
| align="center" style="background:#bbbbff;color:#0000ff" | best
| align="center" style="background:#ffdddd;color:#ff0000" | worse
| align="center" style="background:#ffffff;color:#ffffff" | same
| align="center" style="background:#ffdddd;color:#ff0000" | worse
|-
! align="left" style="background:#efefef;" | [[Practice Points |Practice Points]][2]
| align="center" style="background:#ffeeee;color:#ff0000" | -1
| align="center" style="background:#ffffff;color:#ffffff" | 0
| align="center" style="background:#ffffff;color:#ffffff" | 0
| align="center" style="background:#ffeeee;color:#ff0000" | -1
| align="center" style="background:#ffeeee;color:#ff0000" | -2
| align="center" style="background:#ffffff;color:#ffffff" | 0
| align="center" style="background:#ffffff;color:#ffffff" | +1
| align="center" style="background:#ffeeee;color:#ff0000" | -1
| align="center" style="background:#ffffff;color:#ffffff" | 0
| align="center" style="background:#ffffff;color:#ffffff" | 0
|-
! align="left" style="background:#efefef;" colspan=2 | Effective [[Intelligence|Int]] for [[Practice Points|Practicing]]
| align="center" style="background:#ffeeee;color:#ff0000" | -0.5
| align="center" style="background:#eeeeff;color:#0000ff" | +0.5
| align="center" style="background:#ccccff;color:#0000ff" | +2.5
| align="center" style="background:#ffcccc;color:#ff0000" | -1.5
| align="center" style="background:#ffaaaa;color:#ff0000" | -2.5
| align="center" style="background:#ffffff;color:#ffffff" | 0
| align="center" style="background:#ffeeee;color:#ff0000" | -0.5
| align="center" style="background:#ffcccc;color:#ff0000" | -1.5
| align="center" style="background:#ffffff;color:#ffffff" | 0
| align="center" style="background:#ffeeee;color:#ff0000" | -0.5
|-
! align="left" style="background:#efefef;" colspan=2 | [[Prayer |Prayer]] Responses (Average)
| align="center" style="background:#ffdddd;color:#ff0000" | bad
| align="center" style="background:#ddddff;color:#0000ff" | good
| align="center" style="background:#ddddff;color:#0000ff" | good
| align="center" style="background:#ffffff;color:#000000" | mixed
| align="center" style="background:#ffdddd;color:#ff0000" | bad
| align="center" style="background:#ffffff;color:#000000" | mixed
| align="center" style="background:#ffffff;color:#000000" | mixed
| align="center" style="background:#ffdddd;color:#ff0000" | bad
| align="center" style="background:#ddddff;color:#0000ff" | good
| align="center" style="background:#ffffff;color:#000000" | mixed
|-
! align="left" style="background:#efefef;" colspan=2 | [[Sharpen Weapon |Sharpening]][6]
| align="center" style="background:#ffffff;color:#ffffff" | same
| align="center" style="background:#ddddff;color:#0000ff" | better
| align="center" style="background:#ffffff;color:#ffffff" | same
| align="center" style="background:#ffffff;color:#ffffff" | same
| align="center" style="background:#ffffff;color:#ffffff" | same
| align="center" style="background:#ffffff;color:#ffffff" | same
| align="center" style="background:#ddddff;color:#0000ff" | better
| align="center" style="background:#ffffff;color:#ffffff" | same
| align="center" style="background:#ffffff;color:#0000ff" | better
| align="center" style="background:#ffdddd;color:#ff0000" | worse
|-
! align="left" style="background:#efefef;" colspan=2 | [[Enchanting |Enchanting]][4]
| align="center" style="background:#ffdddd;color:#ff0000" | worse
| align="center" style="background:#ddddff;color:#0000ff" | better
| align="center" style="background:#ffffff;color:#ffffff" | same
| align="center" style="background:#ffdddd;color:#ff0000" | worse
| align="center" style="background:#ddddff;color:#0000ff" | better
| align="center" style="background:#ffffff;color:#ffffff" | same
| align="center" style="background:#ddddff;color:#0000ff" | better
| align="center" style="background:#ffdddd;color:#ff0000" | worse
| align="center" style="background:#ffdddd;color:#ff0000" | worse
| align="center" style="background:#ffffff;color:#ffffff" | same
|-
! align="left" style="background:#efefef;" colspan=2 | [[Fletch |Fletching]][7]
| align="center" style="background:#ffffff;color:#000000" | ??
| align="center" style="background:#bbbbff;color:#0000ff" | best
| align="center" style="background:#ffffff;color:#000000" | ??
| align="center" style="background:#ffdddd;color:#ff0000" | worse?
| align="center" style="background:#ffffff;color:#000000" | ??
| align="center" style="background:#ffffff;color:#000000" | ??
| align="center" style="background:#ffffff;color:#000000" | ??
| align="center" style="background:#ffffff;color:#000000" | ??
| align="center" style="background:#ffffff;color:#000000" | ??
| align="center" style="background:#ffffff;color:#000000" | ??
|-
|+ align="bottom" |
|-
|}

''[1] [[Werredan |Werredan]] effectively disables your ability to do rogue damage, for example, your surprise attack will do just normal damage instead of double (atheist) and will not land very often. 
''[2] Practice gains here refers to [[:Category: Lowmort |lowmort]] [[Practice Points |practice]] gains; as [[:Category: Hero |hero]] [[Practice Points |practice]] gains equal [[:Category: Lowmort|lowmort]] [[Practice Points |practice]] gains halved then rounded down, they may or may not be affected by worship. Check the [[Wisdom |Wisdom Table ]]. 
''[4] [[:Category: Gods And Goddesses |Gods]] affect [[Enchanting |enchanting]] through their "presences"; a favorable divine presence will turn a "shimmer" into a "brill" while an unfavorable one will turn a "brill" into a "shimmer". 
''[5] [[Gorn |Gorn]] seem to decrease normal rogue's rogue damage, and have no effect on shf's 'rogue' skills. 
''[6] A good sharpen presence prevents you from dulling your weapon. When this happens, you won't have any lag from a sharpen attempt either. It does, however, use up one use of your whetstone as usual. 
''[7] Durr like doubles all fletching output. Roixa probably slightly better than normal. Werredan and Kra seem to worsen it slightly. 
''[8] Negative AC effects will also worsen (i.e. make bigger, not smaller) the penalty of AC-reducing spells like ego whip, faerie fire (good), or frenzy (bad). 

This data was compiled from multiple sources that may or may not be accurate and/or up-to-date.''

See also [[Devotion]].

[[Category: Characters]]
[[Category: Commands]]
[[Category: Religion]]

Talk:Orcs

2011-07-10T16:39:10Z

Kerd: DC info

DC Info

Khazdul says 'The human what stole it was seen near that halfling village o' farmers.'

Heather Flats
------------------

Khazdul says 'The human wretch was last seen in the lands we took from the Willow Kingdom.'

Khazdul says 'Course, he coulda run fer the old frontier, too.'

Undrehand
-------------------------

Khazdul says 'The human what stole it's been tracked into the tunnels.'

Khazdul says 'Yeah, he's gone near those pansy orcs what won't fight.'

Orkenhome (even though it's <30)
-----------------------

Khazdul exclaims 'He's trapped in the vineyard, we're closin' in on him!'

lemans vineyard
------------------------

Khazdul says 'A two-headed orc saw him in a valley.'

Khazdul says 'A three-headed orc saw him in a cave.'

Khazdul exclaims 'A half-orc saw him in Igecsoz, of all places!'

cavern of fates

Akrikto

2011-06-01T04:16:30Z

Kerd: Description and comment

This big build Half-Orc looks even tougher than normal.
The fact that he is a butcher and works with the monstrous Catoblepas
would explain his formidable build.
His facial expression is somewhat less impressive. With eyes pointing
towards his nose and the mouth hanging slightly open, it seems he has
some dificulty trying to figure out if he is in fact awake.

Lv 89. Imps take his equipment and similar xp to the Catoblepas bulls; so not worth killing a safe portal point.

Category:Akrikto's Farm

2011-06-01T04:00:22Z

Kerd: Flee and Eat?

''Years of herding catoblepas have hardened Akrikto, who spends most of
''his time chasing trespassers off his property. The rest of his time
''is spent keeping the catoblepas from escaping -- a failure, to say
''the least. Yet even this simple farmer harbors a dark secret.
''Every day he is reminded of the mistakes of his past.

'''Level Range:''' 51-51

'''Builder:''' Kreathyr

== Directions ==

Walking route from [[Eragora_default_recall|Eragora default recall]]: 2s, d, 2s, e, 3s, e, s.

[[Portal |Portaling]] point(s) suggested: [[Akrikto]].

== Connections ==
* [[:Category:Eragora Walkways|Eragora Walkways]]

== Navigation ==

The area consists of two distinct parts - the upper layer with the three-room house and a large field (5x4) to the west, and the lower part with the network of caves (about 5x3 + a 6-room addition). Navigating both is mostly trivial.

Entire area is uncursed so feel free to recall anytime.

== Adventuring ==

The area's upper layer is an Eragoran response to [[:Category:Tortuga Cay|Tortuga Cay]]. The cows are big, juicy and non-aggie and flee with regularity. Two s3 disintegrates will kill them for over 200xp per cow. The bulls are a bit more HP-heavy but hit just as weak, and three s3 disintegrates will kill them for over 300xp each.

Only the tree may prove to be an issue to smaller casters.

As for the lower areas, they are a bit more dangerous due to multiple aggie mobs (that also hit harder) per room. So duo these if you lack the HPs to solo.

Area is not really big enough to sustain a prolonged run with a brute-oriented group; however, neither is it so demanding as to require one.

Might want to beware of Corpse Eaters, at least one of the Heifers eats a mob corpses.

Unlike some other Eragoran areas, this area will not auto-CR you. Due to no rooms being cursed, mercy and gurney will work just fine.

[[Category: Hero Areas]] [[Category: Eragora]]

Talk:Drow

2011-01-31T06:11:40Z

Kerd:

'''== You can use 2.human unless otherwise noted. =='''

Aeldiskaa exclaims 'Just who I was looking for!'

Aeldiskaa says 'Perhaps you can help me track someone down.'

Aeldiskaa exclaims 'Some stinking human stole my locket!'

Aeldiskaa says 'I think you're strong enough to find him and get it back.'

Aeldiskaa says 'You should look in the baron's court or near our dryad friends.'

Aeldiskaa says 'Bring it to the guard at the entrance.'

Aeldiskaa says 'He will give you a token for me.'

Aeldiskaa exclaims 'Go now and retrieve my locket!'

Aeldiskaa tells you 'Be prepared for another task upon your return.'

----

Aeldiskaa asks 'Do you have what it takes to follow in my footsteps?'

Aeldiskaa beckons for you to follow her.

Aeldiskaa exclaims 'Just who I was looking for!'

Aeldiskaa exclaims 'My locket has been stolen again!'

Aeldiskaa says 'The thief seems very familiar, but it couldn't be the same one.'

Aeldiskaa says 'Could it? He seems more powerful.'

Aeldiskaa says 'Search in the foothills, in the vale, and in the willows.'

Aeldiskaa says 'Bring it to the guard at the entrance.'

Aeldiskaa says 'He will give you a token for me.'

Aeldiskaa exclaims 'Go and fetch my locket from that stinking human!'

Aeldiskaa exclaims 'Remember, be ready for anything when you return to me!'

----

Aeldiskaa asks 'Do you have what it takes to follow in my footsteps?'

Aeldiskaa beckons for you to follow her.

Aeldiskaa exclaims 'Just who I was looking for!'

Aeldiskaa says 'I swear I thought I had protected my locket better.'

Aeldiskaa exclaims 'But that...that HUMAN has gone and stolen it again!'

Aeldiskaa says 'I am really beginning to dislike humans.'

Aeldiskaa says 'Look in the willows or even Midgaard. He could also be on the Point with the minotaurs.'

Aeldiskaa says 'Bring it to the guard at the entrance.'

Aeldiskaa says 'He will give you a token for me.'

Aeldiskaa exclaims 'Please go and bring my locket back for me!'

Aeldiskaa tells you 'Be careful, and be prepared when you return.'

----

Aeldiskaa asks 'Do you have what it takes to follow in my footsteps?'

Aeldiskaa beckons for you to follow her.

You now follow Aeldiskaa.

Aeldiskaa exclaims 'Just who I was looking for!'

Aeldiskaa sighs loudly.

Aeldiskaa says 'That stinking human is getting sneakier and sneakier.'

Aeldiskaa says 'He's taken my locket...again.'

Aeldiskaa says 'I'Sal and the drow ArchMage are laughing at me, I just know it.'

Aeldiskaa says 'they might have seen him - or he could be by a tan drow or in a stone house.'

Aeldiskaa says 'Bring it to the guard at the entrance.'

Aeldiskaa says 'He will give you a token for me.'

Aeldiskaa says 'Can you retrieve it for me? Go on, I'll be here.'

----

Aeldiskaa exclaims 'Just who I was looking for!'

Aeldiskaa exclaims 'This is the LAST time, I swear!'

Aeldiskaa exclaims 'But that...that HUMAN has gone and stolen it again!'

Aeldiskaa says 'I think you're strong enough to find him and get it back.'

Aeldiskaa says 'If you bring my locket back, I'd be extremely grateful.'

Aeldiskaa says 'Maybe put in a good word for you with a wizard.'

Aeldiskaa says 'Saerba and Nenba both said they saw a sneaky human, but so did a cultist and a
cute litle elf.'

Aeldiskaa says 'Bring the locket to the guard at the entrance.'

Aeldiskaa says 'He will give you a token for me.'

Aeldiskaa exclaims 'Go now, I want my locket back from that human!'

Aeldiskaa tells you 'Be careful, and be prepared for a fight when you return. If you are level
50 and need to prestige, do so before returning.'

User:Kerd

2011-01-11T02:51:27Z

Kerd: Created page with 'Back from the lands of graphic MMOs and Cybernations. Can usually be found on Roxas, Utena or Strobe.'

Back from the lands of graphic MMOs and Cybernations.

Can usually be found on Roxas, Utena or Strobe.

Category:Lord Archer Gear

2011-01-11T02:47:51Z

Kerd:

{{Lord Gear Quick-Links}}

{{Gear Page|
| light = [[Eye Of Illusion]]
| finger = [[Strand Of Haghair]]
| neck = [[Amulet Of Guiding Wind]]
| onbody=[[Pelt Of Flame's Perfection]] or [[Nightsky Cuirass]] or [http://avatar.melanarchy.info/index.php?title=Leather_Of_Crecy Leather Of Crecy]
| head = [[Visor Of Piercing Sight]] or [[Amethyst Circlet]] or [[New Helm from Commander Run]] or [[A Kzintium Circlet]]
| legs = [[Pair Of Tuatar Battle Pants]]
| feet = [[Lava Striders]] or [http://avatar.melanarchy.info/index.php?title=Slagwalkers Slagwalkers]
| hands = [[Gauntlet Of Icicles]]
| arms = [[Shaleskin Arm Guard]]
| offhand = ''none''
| aboutbody = [[Cloud Of Dancing Shards]]
| waist = [[Belt Of Souls]]
| wrist = [[Guard Of The Demogorgon]] or [[Red Bracer]]
| wield = See [[:Category:Lord Bows|Lord Bows]]
| held = See [[Lord Arrow Types]]
|}}

Some of the lord hitgear has hr mods as well, which can be used in place of the pieces listed above. 

Also, archer mods are based on an item's level, so you can also enchant hero archer gear with archer mods up to lord level, and use that effectively until you get actual lord archer gear.

[[Category:Lord Gear]]

Kzintium Circlet

2011-01-11T02:42:17Z

Kerd: Created page with 'Object 'kzintium circlet' type armor, extra flags glow magic. Weight 11, value 10912, level 125. Object Quality (500 / 500 hps) Armor class is 27. Modifies damage roll by -15 co…'

Object 'kzintium circlet' type armor, extra flags glow magic.
Weight 11, value 10912, level 125.
Object Quality (500 / 500 hps)
Armor class is 27.
Modifies damage roll by -15 continuous
Modifies hit roll by 15 continuous

Found off one of the mobs in the Sphere of Silence part of Tower of Knowledge, Kzin plane.