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		<title>Lizardmen</title>
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		<updated>2008-08-24T07:07:58Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Jimi: /* Comments */&lt;/p&gt;
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{| border=&amp;quot;1&amp;quot; cellpadding=&amp;quot;1&amp;quot; cellspacing=&amp;quot;0&amp;quot; align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|+ '''&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;Lizardman Statistics Tables&amp;lt;/big&amp;gt;'''&lt;br /&gt;
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! align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#efefef&amp;quot; colspan=6 | [[:Category: Lowmort |Lowmort]]-[[:Category: Tiers |Tier]] Lizardman [[:Category: Statistics |Statistics]] by [[:Category: Classes |Class]]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#efefef&amp;quot; | &amp;lt;small&amp;gt; &amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#eeeeff&amp;quot; | &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;[[:Category: Berserkers |bzk]], [[:Category: Bodyguards |bod]], [[:Category: Paladins |pal]],&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; [[:Category: Warriors |war]]&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#eeeeff&amp;quot; | &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;[[:Category: Assassins |asn]], [[:Category: Mages |mag]], [[:Category: Mindbenders |mnd]],&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; [[:Category: Psionicists |psi]], [[:Category: Sorcerers |sor]], [[:Category: Wizards |wzd]]&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#eeeeff&amp;quot; | &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;[[:Category: Clerics |cle]], [[:Category: Druids |dru]], [[:Category: Priests |prs]]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#eeeeff&amp;quot; | &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;[[:Category: Archers |arc]], [[:Category: Black Circle Initiates |bci]], [[:Category: Fusiliers |fus]],&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; [[:Category: Monks |mon]], [[:Category: Rogues |rog]], [[:Category: Shadowfists |shf]]&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#eeeeff&amp;quot; | &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;[[:Category: Rangers |ran]]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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! align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#ffeeee&amp;quot; | [[Strength     |Str]]&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#eeffee&amp;quot; | 15–22 '''(25)'''&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#ffffff&amp;quot; | 14–19 '''(22)'''&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#ffffff&amp;quot; | 14–19 '''(22)'''&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#ffffff&amp;quot; | 14–19 '''(22)'''&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#ffffff&amp;quot; | 14–19 '''(22)'''&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#ffeeee&amp;quot; | [[Intelligence |Int]]&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#ffffff&amp;quot; | 12–17 '''(20)'''&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#eeffee&amp;quot; | 13–20 '''(23)'''&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#ffffff&amp;quot; | 12–17 '''(20)'''&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#ffffff&amp;quot; | 12–17 '''(20)'''&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#ffffff&amp;quot; | 12–17 '''(20)'''&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#ffeeee&amp;quot; | [[Wisdom       |Wis]]&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#ffffff&amp;quot; | 12–17 '''(20)'''&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#ffffff&amp;quot; | 12–17 '''(20)'''&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#eeffee&amp;quot; | 13–20 '''(23)'''&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#ffffff&amp;quot; | 12–17 '''(20)'''&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#ffffff&amp;quot; | 12–17 '''(20)'''&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#ffeeee&amp;quot; | [[Dexterity    |Dex]]&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#ffffff&amp;quot; | 12–17 '''(20)'''&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#ffffff&amp;quot; | 12–17 '''(20)'''&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#ffffff&amp;quot; | 12–17 '''(20)'''&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#eeffee&amp;quot; | 13–20 '''(23)'''&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#ffffff&amp;quot; | 12–17 '''(20)'''&lt;br /&gt;
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! align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#ffeeee&amp;quot; | [[Constitution |Con]]&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#ffffff&amp;quot; | 16–21 '''(24)'''&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#ffffff&amp;quot; | 16–21 '''(24)'''&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#ffffff&amp;quot; | 16–21 '''(24)'''&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#ffffff&amp;quot; | 16–21 '''(24)'''&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#eeffee&amp;quot; | 17–24 '''(27)'''&lt;br /&gt;
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! align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#efefef&amp;quot; colspan=6 | [[:Category: Hero |Hero]]-[[:Category: Tiers |Tier]] Lizardman [[:Category: Statistics |Statistics]] by [[:Category: Classes |Class]]&lt;br /&gt;
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! align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#efefef&amp;quot; | &amp;lt;small&amp;gt; &amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#eeeeff&amp;quot; | &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;[[:Category: Berserkers |bzk]], [[:Category: Bodyguards |bod]], [[:Category: Paladins |pal]],&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; [[:Category: Warriors |war]]&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#eeeeff&amp;quot; | &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;[[:Category: Assassins |asn]], [[:Category: Mages |mag]], [[:Category: Mindbenders |mnd]],&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; [[:Category: Psionicists |psi]], [[:Category: Sorcerers |sor]], [[:Category: Wizards |wzd]]&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#eeeeff&amp;quot; | &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;[[:Category: Clerics |cle]], [[:Category: Druids |dru]], [[:Category: Priests |prs]]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#eeeeff&amp;quot; | &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;[[:Category: Archers |arc]], [[:Category: Black Circle Initiates |bci]], [[:Category: Fusiliers |fus]],&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; [[:Category: Monks |mon]], [[:Category: Rogues |rog]], [[:Category: Shadowfists |shf]]&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#eeeeff&amp;quot; | &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;[[:Category: Rangers |ran]]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#ffeeee&amp;quot; | [[Strength     |Str]]&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#eeffee&amp;quot; | 22–27 '''(30)'''&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#ffffff&amp;quot; | 19–21 '''(24)'''&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#ffffff&amp;quot; | 19–21 '''(24)'''&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#ffffff&amp;quot; | 19–21 '''(24)'''&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#ffffff&amp;quot; | 19–21 '''(24)'''&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#ffeeee&amp;quot; | [[Intelligence |Int]]&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#ffffff&amp;quot; | 17–19 '''(22)'''&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#eeffee&amp;quot; | 20–25 '''(28)'''&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#ffffff&amp;quot; | 17–19 '''(22)'''&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#ffffff&amp;quot; | 17–19 '''(22)'''&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#ffffff&amp;quot; | 17–19 '''(22)'''&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#ffeeee&amp;quot; | [[Wisdom       |Wis]]&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#ffffff&amp;quot; | 17–19 '''(22)'''&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#ffffff&amp;quot; | 17–19 '''(22)'''&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#eeffee&amp;quot; | 20–25 '''(28)'''&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#ffffff&amp;quot; | 17–19 '''(22)'''&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#ffffff&amp;quot; | 17–19 '''(22)'''&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#ffeeee&amp;quot; | [[Dexterity    |Dex]]&lt;br /&gt;
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| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#ffffff&amp;quot; | 17–19 '''(22)'''&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#ffffff&amp;quot; | 17–19 '''(22)'''&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#eeffee&amp;quot; | 20–25 '''(28)'''&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#ffffff&amp;quot; | 17–19 '''(22)'''&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#ffeeee&amp;quot; | [[Constitution |Con]]&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#ffffff&amp;quot; | 21–23 '''(26)'''&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#ffffff&amp;quot; | 21–23 '''(26)'''&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#ffffff&amp;quot; | 21–23 '''(26)'''&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#ffffff&amp;quot; | 21–23 '''(26)'''&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#eeffee&amp;quot; | 24–29 '''(32)'''&lt;br /&gt;
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|+ align=&amp;quot;bottom&amp;quot; | &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;NOTES: ''numbers in each cell above are'' initial trained value – maximum trainable value '''(maximum allowable value for non-[[Devotion |devotees]])'''; ''[[:Category: Classes |class]] [[Prime Requisite |prime requisites]] are'' &amp;lt;font color=green&amp;gt;green&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;.&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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''Lizard Men are a [[:Category: Races |race]] of reptilian humanoids that have recently begun to be found more often in [[Humans |human]] occupied lands.  Lizardmen in this realm tend to revere [[Dragons |dragons]] as godlike in nature, and prefer to associate with them when possible.  Lizardmen are a little [[Strength |stronger]] than the typical [[Humans |human]] and are extremely [[Constitution |hardy]].  They lack sophistication however, and thus are slightly slower than most [[Humans |humans]] (in [[Intelligence |wit]] as well as [[Dexterity |reflex]].)  Lizardmen tend to make excellent [[:Category: Warriors |warriors]], and though they are not as accepted as some [[:Category: Races |races]], they are respected because of their [[Constitution |durability]].  Lizardmen have retained the ability to [[Racial Swim |swim]], though they are not an aquatic [[:Category: Races |race]] for the most part.  They can attack with their [[Racial Tail |tail]], and their skin [[Racial Armorleather |protects them like a strong leather]].''&lt;br /&gt;
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* '''Abbreviation:''' Liz.&lt;br /&gt;
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* '''[[:Category: Languages |Language(s)]]:''' [[Common Language |Common]], [[Draconian Language |Draconian]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* '''[[:Category: Racials |Racial(s)]]:''' [[Racial Armorleather |Armorleather]], [[Racial Swim |Swim]], [[Racial Tail |Tail]].&lt;br /&gt;
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* '''[[Racial Size |Racial Size]]:''' medium.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* '''[[Racial TNL |Racial TNL]]:''' 1052 XP.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* '''Well-Suited to Be:''' [[:Category: Psionicists |psionicists]], [[:Category: Warriors |warriors]], [[:Category: Black Circle Initiates |black circle initiates]], [[:Category: Mindbenders |mindbenders]], [[:Category: mages |mages]], [[:Category: Sorcerers |sorcerers]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* '''Ill-Suited to Be:''' nothing&lt;br /&gt;
== Comments ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Lizardmen get a psionic spell cost reduction bonus, and a baseline (human) cost for generic spells.  Don't know how much.&lt;br /&gt;
 &lt;br /&gt;
To some people, the best feature of liz is their ability to go tua.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category: Creatable Races]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Jimi</name></author>
		
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	<entry>
		<id>http://govbanned.info/index.php?title=Talk:Gargoyles&amp;diff=33187</id>
		<title>Talk:Gargoyles</title>
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		<updated>2008-08-24T06:34:07Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Jimi: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Gargoyles do make good mages/sor but they still fail spells at 97% &lt;br /&gt;
-Rhodie&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
As far as I can tell, gargoyle is as close to no-fail as you can get at 97% for arcane.  I haven't failed torment on my Gar Sor in close to 80 levels.  Non-arcane spells though, yeah I spell a bit. - Jimi&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Make that 240 levels of nofail on torment at 97%.  That is for arcane only of course, non-arcane they can still fail at 97%. - Jimi&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Odd, my gar mag shz still fails at 97%-Rhodie&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Hmm, that is bizarre.  I suppose it's always possible that I was just lucky at 97%.  I'm now at 100% on torment, but I'll check later to see if I have anything else at 97% that I can test out a bit. - Jimi&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Jimi</name></author>
		
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>http://govbanned.info/index.php?title=Talk:Gargoyles&amp;diff=33186</id>
		<title>Talk:Gargoyles</title>
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		<updated>2008-08-24T06:33:56Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Jimi: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;Gargoyles do make good mages/sor but they still fail spells at 97% &lt;br /&gt;
-Rhodie&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
As far as I can tell, gargoyle is as close to no-fail as you can get at 97% for arcane.  I haven't failed torment on my Gar Sor in close to 80 levels.  Non-arcane spells though, yeah I spell a bit. - Jimi&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Make that 240 levels of nofail on torment at 97%.  That is for arcane only of course, non-arcane they can still fail at 97%.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Odd, my gar mag shz still fails at 97%-Rhodie&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Hmm, that is bizarre.  I suppose it's always possible that I was just lucky at 97%.  I'm now at 100% on torment, but I'll check later to see if I have anything else at 97% that I can test out a bit. - Jimi&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Jimi</name></author>
		
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>http://govbanned.info/index.php?title=Talk:Gargoyles&amp;diff=33185</id>
		<title>Talk:Gargoyles</title>
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		<updated>2008-08-24T06:33:34Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Jimi: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;Gargoyles do make good mages/sor but they still fail spells at 97% &lt;br /&gt;
-Rhodie&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
As far as I can tell, gargoyle is as close to no-fail as you can get at 97% for arcane.  I haven't failed torment on my Gar Sor in close to 80 levels.  Non-arcane spells though, yeah I spell a bit. - Jimi&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Make that 240 levels of nofail on torment at 97%.  That is for arcane only of course, non-arcane they can still fail at 97%.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Odd, my gar mag shz still fails at 97%-Rhodie&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Hmm, that is bizarre.  I suppose it's always possible that I was just lucky at 97%.  I'm now at 100% on torment, but I'll check later to see if I have anything else at 97% that I can test out a bit.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Jimi</name></author>
		
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>http://govbanned.info/index.php?title=Talk:Gargoyles&amp;diff=33176</id>
		<title>Talk:Gargoyles</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://govbanned.info/index.php?title=Talk:Gargoyles&amp;diff=33176"/>
		<updated>2008-08-21T02:30:28Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Jimi: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;Gargoyles do make good mages/sor but they still fail spells at 97% &lt;br /&gt;
-Rhodie&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
As far as I can tell, gargoyle is as close to no-fail as you can get at 97% for arcane.  I haven't failed torment on my Gar Sor in close to 80 levels.  Non-arcane spells though, yeah I spell a bit. - Jimi&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Make that 240 levels of nofail on torment at 97%.  That is for arcane only of course, non-arcane they can still fail at 97%.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Jimi</name></author>
		
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>http://govbanned.info/index.php?title=Talk:Gargoyles&amp;diff=32434</id>
		<title>Talk:Gargoyles</title>
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		<updated>2008-04-07T04:24:52Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Jimi: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;Gargoyles do make good mages/sor but they still fail spells at 97% &lt;br /&gt;
-Rhodie&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
As far as I can tell, gargoyle is as close to no-fail as you can get at 97% for arcane.  I haven't failed torment on my Gar Sor in close to 80 levels.  Non-arcane spells though, yeah I spell a bit. - Jimi&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Jimi</name></author>
		
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>http://govbanned.info/index.php?title=Talk:Gargoyles&amp;diff=32433</id>
		<title>Talk:Gargoyles</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://govbanned.info/index.php?title=Talk:Gargoyles&amp;diff=32433"/>
		<updated>2008-04-07T04:22:48Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Jimi: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;Gargoyles do make good mages/sor but they still fail spells at 97% &lt;br /&gt;
-Rhodie&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
As far as I can tell, gargoyle is as close to no-fail as you can get at 97% for arcane.  I haven't failed torment on my Gar Sor in close to 80 levels.  Non-arcane spells though, yeah I spell a bit.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Jimi</name></author>
		
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>http://govbanned.info/index.php?title=Gargoyles&amp;diff=32400</id>
		<title>Gargoyles</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://govbanned.info/index.php?title=Gargoyles&amp;diff=32400"/>
		<updated>2008-02-25T07:27:08Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Jimi: Changed gar to well-suited for mage/sor.  Garg makes a better than human caster for arcane classes.  No fail at 97% and massive hp.  Mana is low, but balanced by the nice arcane bonus.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;{| cellpadding=&amp;quot;25&amp;quot; align=&amp;quot;right&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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{| border=&amp;quot;1&amp;quot; cellpadding=&amp;quot;1&amp;quot; cellspacing=&amp;quot;0&amp;quot; align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|+ '''&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;Gargoyle Statistics Tables&amp;lt;/big&amp;gt;'''&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#efefef&amp;quot; colspan=6 | [[:Category: Lowmort |Lowmort]]-[[:Category: Tiers |Tier]] Gargoyle [[:Category: Statistics |Statistics]] by [[:Category: Classes |Class]]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#efefef&amp;quot; | &amp;lt;small&amp;gt; &amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#eeeeff&amp;quot; | &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;[[:Category: Berserkers |bzk]], [[:Category: Bodyguards |bod]], [[:Category: Paladins |pal]],&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; [[:Category: Warriors |war]]&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#eeeeff&amp;quot; | &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;[[:Category: Assassins |asn]], [[:Category: Mages |mag]], [[:Category: Mindbenders |mnd]],&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; [[:Category: Psionicists |psi]], [[:Category: Sorcerers |sor]], [[:Category: Wizards |wzd]]&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#eeeeff&amp;quot; | &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;[[:Category: Clerics |cle]], [[:Category: Druids |dru]], [[:Category: Priests |prs]]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#eeeeff&amp;quot; | &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;[[:Category: Archers |arc]], [[:Category: Black Circle Initiates |bci]], [[:Category: Fusiliers |fus]],&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; [[:Category: Monks |mon]], [[:Category: Rogues |rog]], [[:Category: Shadowfists |shf]]&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#eeeeff&amp;quot; | &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;[[:Category: Rangers |ran]]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#ffeeee&amp;quot; | [[Strength     |Str]]&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#eeffee&amp;quot; | 16–23 '''(26)'''&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#ffffff&amp;quot; | 15–20 '''(23)'''&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#ffffff&amp;quot; | 15–20 '''(23)'''&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#ffffff&amp;quot; | 15–20 '''(23)'''&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#ffffff&amp;quot; | 15–20 '''(23)'''&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#ffeeee&amp;quot; | [[Intelligence |Int]]&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#ffffff&amp;quot; | 09–14 '''(17)'''&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#eeffee&amp;quot; | 10–17 '''(20)'''&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#ffffff&amp;quot; | 09–14 '''(17)'''&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#ffffff&amp;quot; | 09–14 '''(17)'''&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#ffffff&amp;quot; | 09–14 '''(17)'''&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#ffeeee&amp;quot; | [[Wisdom       |Wis]]&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#ffffff&amp;quot; | 09–14 '''(17)'''&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#ffffff&amp;quot; | 09–14 '''(17)'''&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#eeffee&amp;quot; | 10–17 '''(20)'''&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#ffffff&amp;quot; | 09–14 '''(17)'''&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#ffffff&amp;quot; | 09–14 '''(17)'''&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#ffeeee&amp;quot; | [[Dexterity    |Dex]]&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#ffffff&amp;quot; | 13–18 '''(21)'''&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#ffffff&amp;quot; | 13–18 '''(21)'''&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#ffffff&amp;quot; | 13–18 '''(21)'''&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#eeffee&amp;quot; | 14–21 '''(24)'''&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#ffffff&amp;quot; | 13–18 '''(21)'''&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#ffeeee&amp;quot; | [[Constitution |Con]]&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#ffffff&amp;quot; | 17–22 '''(25)'''&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#ffffff&amp;quot; | 17–22 '''(25)'''&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#ffffff&amp;quot; | 17–22 '''(25)'''&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#ffffff&amp;quot; | 17–22 '''(25)'''&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#eeffee&amp;quot; | 18–25 '''(28)'''&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#efefef&amp;quot; colspan=6 | [[:Category: Hero |Hero]]-[[:Category: Tiers |Tier]] Gargoyle [[:Category: Statistics |Statistics]] by [[:Category: Classes |Class]]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#efefef&amp;quot; | &amp;lt;small&amp;gt; &amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#eeeeff&amp;quot; | &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;[[:Category: Berserkers |bzk]], [[:Category: Bodyguards |bod]], [[:Category: Paladins |pal]],&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; [[:Category: Warriors |war]]&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#eeeeff&amp;quot; | &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;[[:Category: Assassins |asn]], [[:Category: Mages |mag]], [[:Category: Mindbenders |mnd]],&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; [[:Category: Psionicists |psi]], [[:Category: Sorcerers |sor]], [[:Category: Wizards |wzd]]&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#eeeeff&amp;quot; | &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;[[:Category: Clerics |cle]], [[:Category: Druids |dru]], [[:Category: Priests |prs]]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#eeeeff&amp;quot; | &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;[[:Category: Archers |arc]], [[:Category: Black Circle Initiates |bci]], [[:Category: Fusiliers |fus]],&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; [[:Category: Monks |mon]], [[:Category: Rogues |rog]], [[:Category: Shadowfists |shf]]&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#eeeeff&amp;quot; | &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;[[:Category: Rangers |ran]]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#ffeeee&amp;quot; | [[Strength     |Str]]&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#eeffee&amp;quot; | 23–28 '''(31)'''&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#ffffff&amp;quot; | 20–22 '''(25)'''&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#ffffff&amp;quot; | 20–22 '''(25)'''&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#ffffff&amp;quot; | 20–22 '''(25)'''&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#ffffff&amp;quot; | 20–22 '''(25)'''&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#ffeeee&amp;quot; | [[Intelligence |Int]]&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#ffffff&amp;quot; | 14–16 '''(19)'''&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#eeffee&amp;quot; | 17–22 '''(25)'''&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#ffffff&amp;quot; | 14–16 '''(19)'''&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#ffffff&amp;quot; | 14–16 '''(19)'''&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#ffffff&amp;quot; | 14–16 '''(19)'''&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#ffeeee&amp;quot; | [[Wisdom       |Wis]]&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#ffffff&amp;quot; | 14–16 '''(19)'''&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#ffffff&amp;quot; | 14–16 '''(19)'''&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#eeffee&amp;quot; | 17–22 '''(25)'''&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#ffffff&amp;quot; | 14–16 '''(19)'''&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#ffffff&amp;quot; | 14–16 '''(19)'''&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#ffeeee&amp;quot; | [[Dexterity    |Dex]]&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#ffffff&amp;quot; | 18–20 '''(23)'''&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#ffffff&amp;quot; | 18–20 '''(23)'''&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#ffffff&amp;quot; | 18–20 '''(23)'''&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#eeffee&amp;quot; | 21–26 '''(29)'''&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#ffffff&amp;quot; | 18–20 '''(23)'''&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#ffeeee&amp;quot; | [[Constitution |Con]]&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#ffffff&amp;quot; | 22–24 '''(27)'''&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#ffffff&amp;quot; | 22–24 '''(27)'''&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#ffffff&amp;quot; | 22–24 '''(27)'''&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#ffffff&amp;quot; | 22–24 '''(27)'''&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#eeffee&amp;quot; | 25–30 '''(33)'''&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|+ align=&amp;quot;bottom&amp;quot; | &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;NOTES: ''numbers in each cell above are'' initial trained value – maximum trainable value '''(maximum allowable value for non-[[Devotion |devotees]])'''; ''[[:Category: Classes |class]] [[Prime Requisite |prime requisites]] are'' &amp;lt;font color=green&amp;gt;green&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;.&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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|}&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
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''Gargoyles only recently appeared in the realm, but are well known from ancient legends and fables.  The ancient tales vary greatly however, making gargoyles somewhat of an enigma.  These nearly mindless slaves are disproportionately [[Strength |strong]] for their [[Size |size]] and are extremely [[Dexterity |quick]].  At first glance these hideous looking fellows can often be mistaken for statues and, in fact, they are afforded protection by their [[Racial Armorstone |stone-like skin]].  Gargoyles can [[Racial Infravision |see well in total darkness]] often surprising their foes.  They have a small pair of leathery wings that would not seem to be able to support them, but surprisingly enough they can [[Racial Fly |fly]] for short periods of time.  The primary weakness these demon-like creatures besides their extreme lack of [[Wisdom |wit]] and [[Intelligence |intellect]], is the fact that when in direct sunlight, [[Racial Nosun |their skin begins to smoke and char, and they cannot recover from wounds]].''&lt;br /&gt;
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* '''Abbreviation:''' Gar.&lt;br /&gt;
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* '''[[:Category: Languages |Language(s)]]:''' [[Beast Language |Beast]], [[Common Language |Common]].&lt;br /&gt;
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* '''[[:Category: Racials |Racial(s)]]:''' [[Racial Armorstone |Armorstone]], [[Racial Claw |Claw]], [[Racial Fly |Fly]], [[Racial Infravision |Infravision]], [[Racial Nosun |Nosun]].&lt;br /&gt;
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* '''[[Racial Size |Racial Size]]:''' medium.&lt;br /&gt;
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* '''[[Racial TNL |Racial TNL]]:''' 2857 XP.&lt;br /&gt;
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* '''Well-Suited to Be:''' [[:Category: Warriors |warriors]], [[:Category: Sorcerers |sorcerers]], [[:Category: Mages |mages]].&lt;br /&gt;
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* '''Ill-Suited to Be:''' [[:Category: Clerics |clerics]], [[:Category: Druids |druids]], [[:Category: Fusiliers |fusiliers]], [[:Category: Mindbenders |mindbenders]], [[:Category: Priests |priests]], [[:Category: Psionicists |psionicists]], [[:Category: Wizards |wizards]].&lt;br /&gt;
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== Comments ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Gargoyles get a 15% arcane (mage) spell cost reduction.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category: Creatable Races]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Jimi</name></author>
		
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>http://govbanned.info/index.php?title=Giants&amp;diff=30413</id>
		<title>Giants</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://govbanned.info/index.php?title=Giants&amp;diff=30413"/>
		<updated>2007-04-29T22:18:24Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Jimi: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;{| cellpadding=&amp;quot;25&amp;quot; align=&amp;quot;right&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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{| border=&amp;quot;1&amp;quot; cellpadding=&amp;quot;1&amp;quot; cellspacing=&amp;quot;0&amp;quot; align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|+ '''&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;Giant Statistics Tables&amp;lt;/big&amp;gt;'''&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#efefef&amp;quot; colspan=6 | [[:Category: Lowmort |Lowmort]]-[[:Category: Tiers |Tier]] Giant [[:Category: Statistics |Statistics]] by [[:Category: Classes |Class]]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#efefef&amp;quot; | &amp;lt;small&amp;gt; &amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#eeeeff&amp;quot; | &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;[[:Category: Berserkers |bzk]], [[:Category: Bodyguards |bod]], [[:Category: Sorcerers |sor]], [[:Category: Paladins |pal]],&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; [[:Category: Warriors |war]]&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#eeeeff&amp;quot; | &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;[[:Category: Assassins |asn]], [[:Category: Mages |mag]], [[:Category: Mindbenders |mnd]],&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; [[:Category: Psionicists |psi]], [[:Category: Wizards |wzd]]&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#eeeeff&amp;quot; | &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;[[:Category: Clerics |cle]], [[:Category: Druids |dru]], [[:Category: Priests |prs]]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#eeeeff&amp;quot; | &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;[[:Category: Archers |arc]], [[:Category: Black Circle Initiates |bci]], [[:Category: Fusiliers |fus]],&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; [[:Category: Monks |mon]], [[:Category: Rogues |rog]], [[:Category: Shadowfists |shf]]&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#eeeeff&amp;quot; | &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;[[:Category: Rangers |ran]]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#ffeeee&amp;quot; | [[Strength     |Str]]&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#eeffee&amp;quot; | 18–25 '''(28)'''&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#ffffff&amp;quot; | 17–22 '''(25)'''&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#ffffff&amp;quot; | 17–22 '''(25)'''&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#ffffff&amp;quot; | 17–22 '''(25)'''&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#ffffff&amp;quot; | 17–22 '''(25)'''&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#ffeeee&amp;quot; | [[Intelligence |Int]]&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#ffffff&amp;quot; | 09–14 '''(17)'''&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#eeffee&amp;quot; | 10–17 '''(20)'''&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#ffffff&amp;quot; | 09–14 '''(17)'''&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#ffffff&amp;quot; | 09–14 '''(17)'''&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#ffffff&amp;quot; | 09–14 '''(17)'''&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#ffeeee&amp;quot; | [[Wisdom       |Wis]]&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#ffffff&amp;quot; | 09–14 '''(17)'''&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#ffffff&amp;quot; | 09–14 '''(17)'''&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#eeffee&amp;quot; | 10–17 '''(20)'''&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#ffffff&amp;quot; | 09–14 '''(17)'''&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#ffffff&amp;quot; | 09–14 '''(17)'''&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#ffeeee&amp;quot; | [[Dexterity    |Dex]]&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#ffffff&amp;quot; | 11–16 '''(19)'''&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#ffffff&amp;quot; | 11–16 '''(19)'''&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#ffffff&amp;quot; | 11–16 '''(19)'''&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#eeffee&amp;quot; | 12–19 '''(22)'''&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#ffffff&amp;quot; | 11–16 '''(19)'''&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#ffeeee&amp;quot; | [[Constitution |Con]]&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#ffffff&amp;quot; | 17–22 '''(25)'''&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#ffffff&amp;quot; | 17–22 '''(25)'''&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#ffffff&amp;quot; | 17–22 '''(25)'''&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#ffffff&amp;quot; | 17–22 '''(25)'''&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#eeffee&amp;quot; | 18–25 '''(28)'''&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#efefef&amp;quot; colspan=6 | [[:Category: Hero |Hero]]-[[:Category: Tiers |Tier]] Giant [[:Category: Statistics |Statistics]] by [[:Category: Classes |Class]]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#efefef&amp;quot; | &amp;lt;small&amp;gt; &amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#eeeeff&amp;quot; | &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;[[:Category: Berserkers |bzk]], [[:Category: Bodyguards |bod]], [[:Category: Paladins |pal]],&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; [[:Category: Warriors |war]]&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#eeeeff&amp;quot; | &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;[[:Category: Assassins |asn]], [[:Category: Mages |mag]], [[:Category: Mindbenders |mnd]],&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; [[:Category: Psionicists |psi]], [[:Category: Sorcerers |sor]], [[:Category: Wizards |wzd]]&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#eeeeff&amp;quot; | &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;[[:Category: Clerics |cle]], [[:Category: Druids |dru]], [[:Category: Priests |prs]]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#eeeeff&amp;quot; | &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;[[:Category: Archers |arc]], [[:Category: Black Circle Initiates |bci]], [[:Category: Fusiliers |fus]],&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; [[:Category: Monks |mon]], [[:Category: Rogues |rog]], [[:Category: Shadowfists |shf]]&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#eeeeff&amp;quot; | &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;[[:Category: Rangers |ran]]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#ffeeee&amp;quot; | [[Strength     |Str]]&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#eeffee&amp;quot; | 25–30 '''(33)'''&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#ffffff&amp;quot; | 22–24 '''(27)'''&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#ffffff&amp;quot; | 22–24 '''(27)'''&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#ffffff&amp;quot; | 22–24 '''(27)'''&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#ffffff&amp;quot; | 22–24 '''(27)'''&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#ffeeee&amp;quot; | [[Intelligence |Int]]&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#ffffff&amp;quot; | 14–16 '''(19)'''&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#eeffee&amp;quot; | 17–22 '''(25)'''&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#ffffff&amp;quot; | 14–16 '''(19)'''&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#ffffff&amp;quot; | 14–16 '''(19)'''&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#ffffff&amp;quot; | 14–16 '''(19)'''&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#ffeeee&amp;quot; | [[Wisdom       |Wis]]&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#ffffff&amp;quot; | 14–16 '''(19)'''&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#ffffff&amp;quot; | 14–16 '''(19)'''&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#eeffee&amp;quot; | 17–22 '''(25)'''&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#ffffff&amp;quot; | 14–16 '''(19)'''&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#ffffff&amp;quot; | 14–16 '''(19)'''&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#ffeeee&amp;quot; | [[Dexterity    |Dex]]&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#ffffff&amp;quot; | 16–18 '''(21)'''&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#ffffff&amp;quot; | 16–18 '''(21)'''&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#ffffff&amp;quot; | 16–18 '''(21)'''&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#eeffee&amp;quot; | 19–24 '''(27)'''&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#ffffff&amp;quot; | 16–18 '''(21)'''&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#ffeeee&amp;quot; | [[Constitution |Con]]&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#ffffff&amp;quot; | 22–24 '''(27)'''&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#ffffff&amp;quot; | 22–24 '''(27)'''&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#ffffff&amp;quot; | 22–24 '''(27)'''&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#ffffff&amp;quot; | 22–24 '''(27)'''&lt;br /&gt;
| align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; style=&amp;quot;background:#eeffee&amp;quot; | 25–30 '''(33)'''&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|+ align=&amp;quot;bottom&amp;quot; | &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;NOTES: ''numbers in each cell above are'' initial trained value – maximum trainable value '''(maximum allowable value for non-[[Devotion |devotees]])'''; ''[[:Category: Classes |class]] [[Prime Requisite |prime requisites]] are'' &amp;lt;font color=green&amp;gt;green&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;.&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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|}&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
''Giants appear like extremely overgrown [[Humans |humans]], yet as their great [[Strength |strength]] is evident to the naked eye, so is their lack of [[Intelligence |wit]] and [[Wisdom |wisdom]].  They are Incredibly [[Strength |strong]] and [[Constitution |hardy]], more so than most any other [[:Category: Races |race]]; yet are also probably the [[Intelligence |dumbest]].  They are usually shunned by other [[:Category: Races |races]], but many people prefer to follow a giant into combat. While excelling in combat, Giants almost never develop a very good capacity to use magic.''&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* '''Abbreviation:''' Gia.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* '''[[:Category: Languages |Language(s)]]:''' [[Common Language |Common]], [[Giantish Language |Giantish]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* '''[[:Category: Racials |Racial(s)]]:''' [[Racial Powerswing|Powerswing]].&lt;br /&gt;
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* '''[[Racial Size |Racial Size]]:''' very large.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* '''[[Racial TNL |Racial TNL]]:''' 1428 XP.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* '''Well-Suited to Be:''' [[:Category: Berserkers |berserkers]], [[:Category: Bodyguards |bodyguards]], [[:Category: Warriors |warriors]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* '''Ill-Suited to Be:''' [[:Category: Archers |archers]], [[:Category: Assassins |assassins]], [[:Category: Black Circle Initiates |black circle initiates]], [[:Category: Clerics |clerics]], [[:Category: Druids |druids]], [[:Category: Fusiliers |fusiliers]], [[:Category: Mages |mages]], [[:Category: Mindbenders |mindbenders]], [[:Category: Monks |monks]], [[:Category: Priests |priests]], [[:Category: Psionicists |psionicists]], [[:Category: Rogues |rogues]], [[:Category: Shadowfists |shadowfists]], [[:Category: Sorcerers |sorcerers]], [[:Category: Wizards |wizards]].&lt;br /&gt;
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== Comments ==&lt;br /&gt;
In addition to a lot of hp, Giants regen it quickly.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category: Races]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category: Creatable Races]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<id>http://govbanned.info/index.php?title=Category_talk:Ruined_Lairs&amp;diff=30412</id>
		<title>Category talk:Ruined Lairs</title>
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		<updated>2007-04-28T18:13:19Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Jimi: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;I'm going to start dumping things here, sorry for the formatting hell:&lt;br /&gt;
 &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
 The scattered bits of paper are mostly&lt;br /&gt;
 burned and unreadable, crumbling to ash&lt;br /&gt;
 when touched. On one scrap that seems a&lt;br /&gt;
 bit more solid, there are some odd lines:&lt;br /&gt;
 |  :|       |:&lt;br /&gt;
 |  :|__   __|:&lt;br /&gt;
 |  :...| |...:&lt;br /&gt;
 |      | |&lt;br /&gt;
 | \|/  | |&lt;br /&gt;
 The rest of the scrap is burned black and&lt;br /&gt;
 not readable.&lt;br /&gt;
This is visible when someone &amp;quot;looks paper&amp;quot; at the guardroom 7nws4wsdw from Aelmon.&lt;br /&gt;
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Other notes:&lt;br /&gt;
In the popular part of lairs, east from the war planning room is a general who has  a small obsidian    key. Going down past the cook's room puts you in a maze I haven't figured out yet, besides dumping   you back w2n from the War Planning Room.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
'''Update:''' 2d n e s d e u w d from warroom is how to walk the maze, according to another player. --[[User:Arcano|Arcano]] 02:22, 3 April 2007 (CDT)&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;'''Part 2:''' &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
 Zarrillian was the most charismatic of the plotters, and by&lt;br /&gt;
 his accounting the strongest. He had managed to get the others&lt;br /&gt;
 to agree that he would be the head of the new ruling council&lt;br /&gt;
 for the city once they had accomplished their goal. He had&lt;br /&gt;
 left the planning to the others, the magic to Teraz and the&lt;br /&gt;
 actual attack to Serug, figuring that there was no point in&lt;br /&gt;
 making a fool of himself when he could order people around.&lt;br /&gt;
 He suspects one of them betrayed them, and realizing that there&lt;br /&gt;
 are probably too many surviving troops to defeat Serug, he&lt;br /&gt;
 stays in his rooms, occasionally drifting out through the maze&lt;br /&gt;
 to peer into the other wrecked rooms and assess his chances.&lt;br /&gt;
I think this was east from where the above direction took me.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
 &lt;br /&gt;
You can go south from the lich in the Aelmon part to get a box that has &amp;quot;wire rimmed spectacles&amp;quot;  which give 'detect hidden/detect invis.' I'm not seeing anything else there, or having to do with  the lich (unless it's a ticket quest thing). &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''Edit:''' These are possibly the ones that show on locate and have the same stats as the old Gf'd wire rimmed spec's but are hero level, do they have +4 int as well? --[[User:Redwinter|Redwinter]] 13:09, 2 April 2007 (CDT)&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
'''Reply:''' They don't have +4 int, just detect hidden and detect invis. Not sure if they show on locate. I think they might be a clue (or something) on how to get to the next part of Ruined Lairs, which I have no idea, but I hear is somewhat near Diana. --[[User:Arcano|Arcano]] 16:35, 2 April 2007 (CDT)&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
'''Update:'''Yea, it's the one on locate. The room has no &amp;quot;visible&amp;quot; exits, but you can leave north to a room that the lich usually is in. --[[User:Arcano|Arcano]] 01:58, 3 April 2007 (CDT)&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
'''Reply:'''Ah ok, wondered if they were a straight hero replacement of the old lvl 30 ones, seems like they arent as they are missing the +4int (they have same short description as the old gf'd pair that did have +4int). I leave it to someone else to create the A Pair Of Wire Rimmed Spectacles (Ruined Lairs),  and A Pair Of Wire Rimmed Spectacles (Mahn-tor), pages (btw the wire rimmed spectacles pages for mahn-tor is misnamed atm, to Small Pair Of Wire Rimmed Spectacles)  --[[User:Redwinter|Redwinter]] 14:20, 3 April 2007 (CDT) &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''Update:'''Those spectacles DO have +4int on them.&lt;br /&gt;
 &lt;br /&gt;
I found a ticket, I think in the King Lion part from the lich(I could be wrong on this, haven't checked): &lt;br /&gt;
 You look at a broken axe head in your inventory...&lt;br /&gt;
 A broken axe head lies here.&lt;br /&gt;
 This item seems to be ticket.&lt;br /&gt;
 It weighs approximately 2 lbs.&lt;br /&gt;
 This item cannot be worn..&lt;br /&gt;
 &lt;br /&gt;
Also, in that part, sdn, qu trick, 2esw2dn from king lion there is a locked door that needs an intricate black key (needless to say, nothing on locate).&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;br /&gt;
 The undead being standing in the room was once the mighty&lt;br /&gt;
 mage Zincular, a noble in the great city of Midgaard. Well,&lt;br /&gt;
 to be precise, that is what he would call himself. Others in&lt;br /&gt;
 that city would scratch their heads and then recall that he&lt;br /&gt;
 was in fact the third, or was it the fourth son of a noble,&lt;br /&gt;
 and as such was hardly worth remembering. His resentment of&lt;br /&gt;
 this attitude was what fueled his desire to overthrow the&lt;br /&gt;
 rulers of the city and establish he and the other mages of&lt;br /&gt;
 his hidden circle as the rightful rulers. He does not know&lt;br /&gt;
 exactly what went wrong, but the mighty dark magic they were&lt;br /&gt;
 trying to harness obviously backfired and caused the&lt;br /&gt;
 complete devastation of his once fine hidden lair. He was&lt;br /&gt;
 here to spy on the city from the inside, and eventually clear&lt;br /&gt;
 the way for the invasion force from the east. He was also&lt;br /&gt;
 trying to assist with the discovery and elimination of any&lt;br /&gt;
 groups that might prevent the takeover from outside the city.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Above is the description from the lich in the part of ruined lairs near aelmon.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
 Anastasia was the brightest of the plotters, and certainly the&lt;br /&gt;
 most proficient caster. She was the one that realized the fool&lt;br /&gt;
 Taraz had not properly executed the early spells in the long&lt;br /&gt;
 sequence when things started to go wrong, and she managed to&lt;br /&gt;
 nudge the wild magic just a touch, enough to shift bits of it&lt;br /&gt;
 from pure destruction to a transformative effect, which&lt;br /&gt;
 prevented the total destruction of the plotters and their&lt;br /&gt;
 minions. She was generally very spartan in her ways, disdaining&lt;br /&gt;
 excess decoration and glittery clothing. At times though she&lt;br /&gt;
 did enjoy dressing up as someone else, a bit of a concealed&lt;br /&gt;
 acting talent. She kept these performances very private, and&lt;br /&gt;
 only Serug had access to them. Most of her time was spent in&lt;br /&gt;
 her labs, crafting new and horrible forms of undead warriors.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Above is the description from the lich who wanders in the Ruined Lairs part near King Lion. This is the mob that carries the previously mentioned ticket. &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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More things I found:&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
2d from the cleric near king lion (sdn, qu trick, 2esw) in the room &amp;quot;A Ruined Library&amp;quot;, look books produces&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
 Little can be seen of the covers and pages, most are torn&lt;br /&gt;
 and burned beyond recognition.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
there is a weapon with the same stats as the chained sickle, on the ghosts in the labratory... from the cleric, 2d2s3es (or close to that)&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
In the very far se corner of this part there is a quaffable pool, or something, that puts you in a water room with no exits, and a [[Huge Water Wraith]], a level 90 invis aggie mob. Quaffing again takes you back to the previous room.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Jimi</name></author>
		
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