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Talk:Main Page

2005-11-16T17:27:36Z

Ilthik: /* Mass Confusion */

== Creating new pages ==

Another way to create a new page is to just directly go to the URL. See in the address bar of your browser where it says '''?title=Talk:Main_Page''' just replace the ''''Talk:Main_Page'''' with the page you want to create. So the complete new link would be http://avatar.melanarchy.info/index.php?title=My_New_Page_Name to create a new page ''''My New Page Name'''' for a new category put '''Category:New_Category_Name''' I think you see where this is going.

The reason why there isn't a way to create new pages other than what Waite said (linking to them and then following the link) is because if you don't link the page from any exisiting pages nobody will be able to get to it. The page becomes what the wiki calls an "orphaned" page. You can see the orphaned pages by following the link from the Special Pages section of the tollbox. Orphaned pages don't do anything helpful and are not really a part ot the wiki.

What does all this mean Mel?

I don't believe anybody should ever be using the method I described above to create new pages. Figure out what page is going to bring people to your new page, make a link, follow that link, add to the page, categorize the page. That should be the work progression that everybody follows when making a new page.

--[[User:Mel|Mel]] 22:40, 3 May 2005 (EDT)

== Contact Information ==

It may be helpful to provide some means of contacting those folks in charge of this site.

Also, I recently posted a table of quick ways to increase one's gold supply, which I and others have found handy. I titled this article [[Treasure]] and put it under the Miscellaneous category. I was wondering if perhaps there was a better name for it, a more appropriate place to put it, a better way to organize its content, or a better way to integrate it with the rest of the site. Or if it's just dandy like it is. Anyway...

Well contacting Waite or I is a perfectly reasonable idea, but don't worry so much about what you think is right and what you think is wrong. This is a Wiki, the very idea is that everybody participates, and if somebody thinks something should be moved, they move it. I think you chose the perfect location for the page, and I think it's great. --[[User:Mel|Mel]] 17:51, 5 May 2005 (EDT)

If you really want to contact a user of this wiki, just edit their talk page.

== Mass Confusion ==

I don't mean to put a damper on the momentum that I see this website generating, but with that momentum come some problems. As an example, take a look at the category [[Lowmort 1-10 gear]]. I've just spent some time working on updating that category, but there are still some glaring problems. Muddy boots don't provide +1 dexterity, they provide -1 dexterity, making them useless. Neither those boots nor the goblin boots of fleeing are very good for use at this level. Fur-lined boots are much better and provide a small amount of bonus armor. Yes, I know, I could just add it, but let me continue. The golden unicorn horn (in the offhand slot) is a weapon, and unless you have dual, which nobody gets before level 10, using a weapon in your offhand is pretty useless. A shield would be more useful there. Any shield. For the held slot, the orb of knowledge is missing. Most true newbies (no alts, no spells, not perfect gear) won't be able to get a red eyed jewel until at least level 15 or so, therefore the orb of knowledge is still a good item to list. As for the other gear listed at the bottom there, blue lizard tongues no longer exist and buck skin gloves are listed twice. Then there is a matter of all the items not yet listed which would be useful (the other 'enchanted' weapons besides longswords, the idiot crown, and the pixie crossbow, for instance) or even the items that would be nice to have for the sake of completeness, and the fact that almost every page has different formatting. It's just not feasible for everyone to try to organize things as they see fit without any thought to future organization. It's one thing to say 'if you don't like something, fix it, but things are getting to be a real mess.

When I first saw this page go up, I thought it was a really awesome idea. I still think it's a great idea, but I think it could use some more moderation. To compare this to what was formerly Aejase, here there is the potential for far more information, but the information there was more accurate and far better organized. This also has the potential to be well organized, but the implementors need to step in and moderate what's being written in here. At the very least, it would be great if all if the information was checked for accuracy and formatted the same way. Perhaps there could be a page at the top of each category entitled 'template.' This way, a default format can be set for areas, gear pages, mob pages, and whatever else is going to be stored here. Don't get me wrong, I don't mean to flame this site, it makes great strides toward storing information about Avatar in an organized, collected, secure and open manner. I just don't want to see it become abandoned because people get frustrated by some of the innacurate entries and poorly organized categories that exist.

-Ilthik, July 19th 2005

Hi Ilthik (and the rest), 

Thanks for taking it upon yourself to help clean up the level 1-10 gear category. In general some of the categories are still a mess from when we initially populated them with lists of gear. I intend the "lowmort ??-?? gear" categories to contain misc. gear that would be useful for a variety of characters. Stuff like healing potions, orb of faerie magic, etc. Other gear can go into more specialized categories (hit, tank, mana). Lowmort 1-10 gear is a bit different from the rest, because characters don't really wear specialized gear that low. Instead everyone runs around in a mix of hit, tank, and level gear. As far as some of your specific suggestions, I'll tackle them in list form:

muddy boots: good catch. I've never got this piece before, so I had no clue. 

goblin boots of fleeing: while it might not have the same ac boost as the fur-lined boots (which I've also never got before), I would argue that they're still useful to newbies. The +move modifier can be useful to newbs who like to run around and explore, and because they're a higher level they have better base ac than the mudschool gear. 

golden unicorn horn as offhand: you have a good point that lowbies don't get dual, so offhanding a weapon isn't horribly useful. However, this weapon gives +2 hr & +2 dr, so it will help a newbie hit harder and more often with their main wield. Your point that a shield could be more useful is valid. It would probably be a good idea to write up a discussion of these points in the golden unicorn horn page, along with a link to a nice lowbie shield. 

orb of knowledge: definitely deserves a page. should also be linked to from red-eyed jewel so the less adventurous newbs know they can settle for something easier to get. However, I would like to think that with the info that this site provides, a true newb would be able to slay the dracolich before level 15. 

blue lizard tongues no longer exist: this is a recent development. fortunately I've already created categories for grandfathered gear, so all you need to do is switch what category this piece is in. 

buck skin gloves listed twice: someone goofed, but easy enough to fix 

missing gear/inaccurate entries: I'll admit there's more work to be done on this category, and just about every other category. Maybe I'm just being optimistic, but I feel that inaccuracies in the wiki will be ironed out as more people come to use our system and more people become comfortable making changes. I'm definitely willing to do my part. Also, keep in mind that aejase wasn't always perfect. Even before half of the gear it listed became gfed, there were some odd entries that no one could fix. How many times did you see a newbie asking how to get benlad's axe? At least with this site, you don't have to wait around for the moderator to make changes. 

organization/layout/format: Mediawiki does have support for making page templates. I never bothered because I figured as long as all the right info is present, who cares how it looks? But maybe I was wrong. I'll look into how templates work when I get out of work today, and try to make a few templates like you suggested: one for gear, mobs, area, etc. 

Again, I appreciate your concerns and suggestions, along with the work you've already done. Most, if not all, of the problems you pointed out are pretty easy to fix. If we all keep working on this wiki together, it will only get better and better. 
-Waite

Waite, 
That's a good point about the moderators slowing down the process and Aejase being out of date. I remember just before it went down that last time that Khazaad was really behind on entries. My biggest concern was that more people contributing would create a bigger mess as everyone tried to add their own format to the list. I just see the format becoming an issue as this site grows and people are looking to add things, but don't necessarily know how to write down all the information that they have. While the information is still there, it may become a jungle to navigate. For example, imagine looking at a piece of code or an html document without any line breaks versus one that has been done neatly and carefully. 
I guess I'll take the liberty of starting up a [[format]] page to collect the different formats for areas and items. Please add to it as I'm sure I'll miss something. I'm not sure how you'd like to go about organizing the categories yet so I'll let you play with that. 
-Ilthik

Gauntlets Of Accuracy

2005-07-23T20:16:40Z

Ilthik:

Slot: Hands 
Armor Class: 5-7 
Bonuses: +3 Hitroll 
Weight: 5 
Level: 25 
Mob: One-eye, the pirate lord 

This gear became grandfathered when the new ocean went in and Pirate Lord Isles was taken out.

[[Category:Lowmort 21-30 Hit Gear]]

User:Ilthik

2005-07-22T03:19:46Z

Ilthik:

Ilthik lives in NY during the summer and Boston, MA during the school year. However, as of next year who knows where he will be as he is graduating with an aerospace engineering degree from Boston University. He loves to dabble in all things computer related and hopes to combine his hobby with his craft when he graduates.

On Avatar, you may see Ilthik as one of an ever growing number of alts, Mirp or Illan mainly. He loves lowmort and will try to help fellow lowbies whenever he can (unless they're really annoying!), just look for the bright yellow {LHF} in the title.

User:Ilthik

2005-07-22T03:16:08Z

Ilthik:

Ilthik lives in NY during the summer and Boston, MA during the school year. However, as of next year who knows where he will be as he is graduating with an aerospace engineering degree from Boston University (hopefully!). He loves to dabble in all things computer related and hopes to combine his hobby with his craft when he graduates.

On Avatar, you may see Ilthik as one of an ever growing number of alts, Mirp or Illan mainly. He loves lowmort and will try to help fellow lowbies whenever he can, just look for the bright yellow {LHF} in the title.

Main Page

2005-07-22T00:24:23Z

Ilthik:

Welcome to the Avatar Wiki. This website is designed as a depository for Information about avatar.

Avatar is available via telnet at avatar.outland.org port 3000 
The Official Avatar Website is [http://www.outland.org http://www.outland.org]

[[:Category:Lowmort|Lowmort]] 
[[:Category:Hero|Hero]] 
[[:Category:Lord|Lord]] 
[[:Category:Miscellaneous|Miscellaneous]]

If you've never been here been here before, you can take a look at [[How To Use This Site]] to figure out how best to find the information you need.

If you want to help make this website more useful, but aren't sure how, take a look at [[Contributing]].

To keep this site neat, organized and useful, please try to stick to the [[format]] when adding or editing items.

If you're curious why we're making another Avatar website with so much information already available on the web, check out our [[Motivation]].

Talk:Main Page

2005-07-22T00:21:46Z

Ilthik:

== Creating new pages ==

Another way to create a new page is to just directly go to the URL. See in the address bar of your browser where it says '''?title=Talk:Main_Page''' just replace the ''''Talk:Main_Page'''' with the page you want to create. So the complete new link would be http://avatar.melanarchy.info/index.php?title=My_New_Page_Name to create a new page ''''My New Page Name'''' for a new category put '''Category:New_Category_Name''' I think you see where this is going.

The reason why there isn't a way to create new pages other than what Waite said (linking to them and then following the link) is because if you don't link the page from any exisiting pages nobody will be able to get to it. The page becomes what the wiki calls an "orphaned" page. You can see the orphaned pages by following the link from the Special Pages section of the tollbox. Orphaned pages don't do anything helpful and are not really a part ot the wiki.

What does all this mean Mel?

I don't believe anybody should ever be using the method I described above to create new pages. Figure out what page is going to bring people to your new page, make a link, follow that link, add to the page, categorize the page. That should be the work progression that everybody follows when making a new page.

--[[User:Mel|Mel]] 22:40, 3 May 2005 (EDT)

== Contact Information ==

It may be helpful to provide some means of contacting those folks in charge of this site.

Also, I recently posted a table of quick ways to increase one's gold supply, which I and others have found handy. I titled this article [[Treasure]] and put it under the Miscellaneous category. I was wondering if perhaps there was a better name for it, a more appropriate place to put it, a better way to organize its content, or a better way to integrate it with the rest of the site. Or if it's just dandy like it is. Anyway...

Well contacting Waite or I is a perfectly reasonable idea, but don't worry so much about what you think is right and what you think is wrong. This is a Wiki, the very idea is that everybody participates, and if somebody thinks something should be moved, they move it. I think you chose the perfect location for the page, and I think it's great. --[[User:Mel|Mel]] 17:51, 5 May 2005 (EDT)

If you really want to contact a user of this wiki, just edit their talk page.

== Mass Confusion ==

I don't mean to put a dampener on the momentum that I see this website generating, but with that momentum come some problems. As an example, take a look at the category [[Lowmort 1-10 gear]]. I've just spent some time working on updating that category, but there are still some glaring problems. Muddy boots don't provide +1 dexterity, they provide -1 dexterity, making them useless. Neither those boots nor the goblin boots of fleeing are very good for use at this level. Fur-lined boots are much better and provide a small amount of bonus armor. Yes, I know, I could just add it, but let me continue. The golden unicorn horn (in the offhand slot) is a weapon, and unless you have dual, which nobody gets before level 10, using a weapon in your offhand is pretty useless. A shield would be more useful there. Any shield. For the held slot, the orb of knowledge is missing. Most true newbies (no alts, no spells, not perfect gear) won't be able to get a red eyed jewel until at least level 15 or so, therefore the orb of knowledge is still a good item to list. As for the other gear listed at the bottom there, blue lizard tongues no longer exist and buck skin gloves are listed twice. Then there is a matter of all the items not yet listed which would be useful (the other 'enchanted' weapons besides longswords, the idiot crown, and the pixie crossbow, for instance) or even the items that would be nice to have for the sake of completeness, and the fact that almost every page has different formatting. It's just not feasible for everyone to try to organize things as they see fit without any thought to future organization. It's one thing to say 'if you don't like something, fix it, but things are getting to be a real mess.

When I first saw this page go up, I thought it was a really awesome idea. I still think it's a great idea, but I think it could use some more moderation. To compare this to what was formerly Aejase, here there is the potential for far more information, but the information there was more accurate and far better organized. This also has the potential to be well organized, but the implementors need to step in and moderate what's being written in here. At the very least, it would be great if all if the information was checked for accuracy and formatted the same way. Perhaps there could be a page at the top of each category entitled 'template.' This way, a default format can be set for areas, gear pages, mob pages, and whatever else is going to be stored here. Don't get me wrong, I don't mean to flame this site, it makes great strides toward storing information about Avatar in an organized, collected, secure and open manner. I just don't want to see it become abandoned because people get frustrated by some of the innacurate entries and poorly organized categories that exist.

-Ilthik, July 19th 2005

Hi Ilthik (and the rest), 

Thanks for taking it upon yourself to help clean up the level 1-10 gear category. In general some of the categories are still a mess from when we initially populated them with lists of gear. I intend the "lowmort ??-?? gear" categories to contain misc. gear that would be useful for a variety of characters. Stuff like healing potions, orb of faerie magic, etc. Other gear can go into more specialized categories (hit, tank, mana). Lowmort 1-10 gear is a bit different from the rest, because characters don't really wear specialized gear that low. Instead everyone runs around in a mix of hit, tank, and level gear. As far as some of your specific suggestions, I'll tackle them in list form:

muddy boots: good catch. I've never got this piece before, so I had no clue. 

goblin boots of fleeing: while it might not have the same ac boost as the fur-lined boots (which I've also never got before), I would argue that they're still useful to newbies. The +move modifier can be useful to newbs who like to run around and explore, and because they're a higher level they have better base ac than the mudschool gear. 

golden unicorn horn as offhand: you have a good point that lowbies don't get dual, so offhanding a weapon isn't horribly useful. However, this weapon gives +2 hr & +2 dr, so it will help a newbie hit harder and more often with their main wield. Your point that a shield could be more useful is valid. It would probably be a good idea to write up a discussion of these points in the golden unicorn horn page, along with a link to a nice lowbie shield. 

orb of knowledge: definitely deserves a page. should also be linked to from red-eyed jewel so the less adventurous newbs know they can settle for something easier to get. However, I would like to think that with the info that this site provides, a true newb would be able to slay the dracolich before level 15. 

blue lizard tongues no longer exist: this is a recent development. fortunately I've already created categories for grandfathered gear, so all you need to do is switch what category this piece is in. 

buck skin gloves listed twice: someone goofed, but easy enough to fix 

missing gear/inaccurate entries: I'll admit there's more work to be done on this category, and just about every other category. Maybe I'm just being optimistic, but I feel that inaccuracies in the wiki will be ironed out as more people come to use our system and more people become comfortable making changes. I'm definitely willing to do my part. Also, keep in mind that aejase wasn't always perfect. Even before half of the gear it listed became gfed, there were some odd entries that no one could fix. How many times did you see a newbie asking how to get benlad's axe? At least with this site, you don't have to wait around for the moderator to make changes. 

organization/layout/format: Mediawiki does have support for making page templates. I never bothered because I figured as long as all the right info is present, who cares how it looks? But maybe I was wrong. I'll look into how templates work when I get out of work today, and try to make a few templates like you suggested: one for gear, mobs, area, etc. 

Again, I appreciate your concerns and suggestions, along with the work you've already done. Most, if not all, of the problems you pointed out are pretty easy to fix. If we all keep working on this wiki together, it will only get better and better. 
-Waite

Waite, 
That's a good point about the moderators slowing down the process and Aejase being out of date. I remember just before it went down that last time that Khazaad was really behind on entries. My biggest concern was that more people contributing would create a bigger mess as everyone tried to add their own format to the list. I just see the format becoming an issue as this site grows and people are looking to add things, but don't necessarily know how to write down all the information that they have. While the information is still there, it may become a jungle to navigate. For example, imagine looking at a piece of code or an html document without any line breaks versus one that has been done neatly and carefully. 
I guess I'll take the liberty of starting up a [[format]] page to collect the different formats for areas and items. Please add to it as I'm sure I'll miss something. I'm not sure how you'd like to go about organizing the categories yet so I'll let you play with that. 
-Ilthik

Talk:Main Page

2005-07-19T20:49:19Z

Ilthik:

It seems to be a lot of hassle to have a seperate page for an area and gear in an area. I highly suggest these get combined to say on category clutter and help ease of navigation. (You'll simply list the gear in an area IN the area page itself)

-PirateHero (re-edited to bring to top of list)

Seperate pages for everything. Categorizing will automatically create pages that have the list. Although I agree with your point about the summaries being easier than having to click on each link, I wouldn't find it unacceptable if both exisited. I know that for low mort this might seem like over kill but in the lord game I think most people would agree that having a seperate page for each is important.

Also don't worry so much about formating, I'm glad you like the way you're doing it, some people (perhaps even me) may change it, and that's okay too.

--[[User:Mel|Mel]] 10:38, 26 Apr 2005 (EDT)

----

== Guilds ==

It might be nice for somebody to put in directions to all the guilds, and by guilds I mean trainers.

--[[User:Mel|Mel]] 22:02, 30 Apr 2005 (EDT)

Well i would do it but i dont know how to create a new page, i know how to edit but not create pages.
-Elfangwor

This is a little trickier than it should be. The easiest way to create a page which doesn't exist yet is to create a link to it on some previously existing page. Then when you follow the link you'll be brought to a page where you can edit this new, nonexistant page.
-[[User:Waite|Waite]]

So how about instead i find these and post them and someone makes the page for me eh?
 
Archer | arc Aelmon 5s, 3e, 2n, up, n, w 
Cleric | cle Aelmon 4w, 3n, 3w 
Mage | mag Aelmon 8s, 2w, 4n, open west, w, open north, n, 2u (requires see magic) 
Warrior | war Aelmon 6e, n, 2e, 4n, 3w 
 
thats what i know from memory (yes i tested), im working on the rest.

-Elfangwor (hates making links) 
 

Rogue ael - 7n, 2e, 3s, e, pull hook, s (wirey man very aggie to non-rogues and only rog and asn can see the hook :P ) 
Assassin ael - 7n, 2e, 3s, e, pull hook, s, op d, d (again wirey man very aggie) 
Berserker ael - 6e, n 
Monk ael - 14n, w, 3n, w, n, op e, e, 2n, 2w, 3s, op s, s (monks are very aggie to all non-monks) 
Paladin ael - 8e, 3n, op w, 2w 
Priest ael - 2w, op n, n, 2u, 2e, s, op w, 2w 
Psionicist ael - 8s, 2w, 3n, op n, n, op w, w op w, w 
Sorcerer ael - 9w, 4s, op e, e 
Wizard ael - 6w, s 
 
-Zammzt (most shouldn't be aggie but no promises so if your not the class and going to the guild be carefull) 

Started to set up the page... [[:Category:Trainers]] I would hope to have the actual mobs that teach listed on that page, with the path-info on the page of the mobile (to make the info on the Trainer-page less long and specific).

--[[User:Pico|pico]] 15:32, 9 May 2005 (EDT)

== Creating new pages ==

Another way to create a new page is to just directly go to the URL. See in the address bar of your browser where it says '''?title=Talk:Main_Page''' just replace the ''''Talk:Main_Page'''' with the page you want to create. So the complete new link would be http://avatar.melanarchy.info/index.php?title=My_New_Page_Name to create a new page ''''My New Page Name'''' for a new category put '''Category:New_Category_Name''' I think you see where this is going.

The reason why there isn't a way to create new pages other than what Waite said (linking to them and then following the link) is because if you don't link the page from any exisiting pages nobody will be able to get to it. The page becomes what the wiki calls an "orphaned" page. You can see the orphaned pages by following the link from the Special Pages section of the tollbox. Orphaned pages don't do anything helpful and are not really a part ot the wiki.

What does all this mean Mel?

I don't believe anybody should ever be using the method I described above to create new pages. Figure out what page is going to bring people to your new page, make a link, follow that link, add to the page, categorize the page. That should be the work progression that everybody follows when making a new page.

--[[User:Mel|Mel]] 22:40, 3 May 2005 (EDT)

== Contact Information ==

It may be helpful to provide some means of contacting those folks in charge of this site.

Also, I recently posted a table of quick ways to increase one's gold supply, which I and others have found handy. I titled this article [[Treasure]] and put it under the Miscellaneous category. I was wondering if perhaps there was a better name for it, a more appropriate place to put it, a better way to organize its content, or a better way to integrate it with the rest of the site. Or if it's just dandy like it is. Anyway...

Well contacting Waite or I is a perfectly reasonable idea, but don't worry so much about what you think is right and what you think is wrong. This is a Wiki, the very idea is that everybody participates, and if somebody thinks something should be moved, they move it. I think you chose the perfect location for the page, and I think it's great. --[[User:Mel|Mel]] 17:51, 5 May 2005 (EDT)

== Area name typo - moving /merging ==

Not able to fix this: area 41-50: 'Labyrinth Of Despair' is the correct name, but there is a gear and area page made for 'Caverns Of Despair'

Can't rename/move as a blank page for Lab now exists. I reied with making the page redirect to Cavern and then move, but nope

[[User:Pico|pico]] 15:28, 5 May 2005 (EDT)

I'll look into this when I get a chance later tonight. --[[User:Mel|Mel]] 17:52, 5 May 2005 (EDT)

I just checked on the MUD, I guess there's two distinct areas, labyrinth of despair and caverns of despair. the labyrinth is the area with the eye of the beholder. So, just change links/categories as necessary and everything should be fine. No need to move/merge, since they should remain separate.
-Waite

Transporting this here from the main page:
Is there a way to add the top 5 most-viewed pages to this page? Other than manually setting them each time? If so that'd be a nice thing to add here.

And here's the answer:
You can easily see that, and all other sort of interesting information, by checking out the "Special Pages" link off to the left, in the toolbox. If you want, we could link to the most popular pages link on the main page, but as of now some of the most popular pages are random test pages that I created some time ago. As always, feel free to edit this thing to your heart's content. Do whatever you think will make this site more interesting and useful for your fellow avatarians.
-Waite

== Downtime ==

Sorry about the downtime yesterday everybody, I upgraded my server and forgot to turn php safe mode back off.

I have a great new webmail client though. Everything should be working now, let me know if you find anything that is not.

--[[User:Mel|Mel]] 10:12, 11 May 2005 (EDT)

== Mass Confusion ==

I don't mean to put a dampener on the momentum that I see this website generating, but with that momentum come some problems. As an example, take a look at the category [[Lowmort 1-10 gear]]. I've just spent some time working on updating that category, but there are still some glaring problems. Muddy boots don't provide +1 dexterity, they provide -1 dexterity, making them useless. Neither those boots nor the goblin boots of fleeing are very good for use at this level. Fur-lined boots are much better and provide a small amount of bonus armor. Yes, I know, I could just add it, but let me continue. The golden unicorn horn (in the offhand slot) is a weapon, and unless you have dual, which nobody gets before level 10, using a weapon in your offhand is pretty useless. A shield would be more useful there. Any shield. For the held slot, the orb of knowledge is missing. Most true newbies (no alts, no spells, not perfect gear) won't be able to get a red eyed jewel until at least level 15 or so, therefore the orb of knowledge is still a good item to list. As for the other gear listed at the bottom there, blue lizard tongues no longer exist and buck skin gloves are listed twice. Then there is a matter of all the items not yet listed which would be useful (the other 'enchanted' weapons besides longswords, the idiot crown, and the pixie crossbow, for instance) or even the items that would be nice to have for the sake of completeness, and the fact that almost every page has different formatting. It's just not feasible for everyone to try to organize things as they see fit without any thought to future organization. It's one thing to say 'if you don't like something, fix it, but things are getting to be a real mess.

When I first saw this page go up, I thought it was a really awesome idea. I still think it's a great idea, but I think it could use some more moderation. To compare this to what was formerly Aejase, here there is the potential for far more information, but the information there was more accurate and far better organized. This also has the potential to be well organized, but the implementors need to step in and moderate what's being written in here. At the very least, it would be great if all if the information was checked for accuracy and formatted the same way. Perhaps there could be a page at the top of each category entitled 'template.' This way, a default format can be set for areas, gear pages, mob pages, and whatever else is going to be stored here. Don't get me wrong, I don't mean to flame this site, it makes great strides toward storing information about Avatar in an organized, collected, secure and open manner. I just don't want to see it become abandoned because people get frustrated by some of the innacurate entries and poorly organized categories that exist.

-Ilthik, July 19th 2005

Assistive Mobs

2005-07-19T19:49:15Z

Ilthik:

Some mobs, while not necessarily [[aggressive]], may attack you if they notice you attacking their fellow mobs, or they may attack eachother if you attack one of them. 
This sometimes depends on your [[alignment]]. If a mob assists at all, a good mob will usually assist against you if you are evil or against the mob you're attacking if your alignment is higher. This goes vice versa for evil mobs. 

[[Category: Miscellaneous]]

Draconian Helmet

2005-07-19T19:44:49Z

Ilthik:

Modifies armor class by -5 continuous.
Slot: Head 
Level: 9 
Base: 4 
Weight: 4 
Mob: [[Baaz Draconian]] 
Area: [[:Category:Crystalmir Lake|Crystalmir Lake]] 

The mob is portable. It's worthy to note that there are 9 draconians in the same room, and they do assist, so be careful. 
From Sol it is 3e11s3w2n. 
From Goldmoon it is 4w2n.
[[Category:Lowmort 1-10 Gear]]
[[Category:Lowmort 11-20 Tank Gear]]
[[Category:Gear In Crystalmir Lake]]

Blood Red Tunic

2005-07-19T19:43:46Z

Ilthik:

Object 'tunic blood red' type armor, extra flags none. 
Weight 2, value 10, level 6. 
Object Quality (100 / 100 hps)<br.
Armor class is 3. 
Modifies mana by 5 continuous 

Mob: Kobold 
Directions: From Sol 3es2en 

[[Category:Mana Gear]]
[[Category:Lowmort 1-10 Gear]]
[[Category:Gear Witches Forest]]

Blood Red Tunic

2005-07-19T19:43:20Z

Ilthik:

Object 'tunic blood red' type armor, extra flags none. 
Weight 2, value 10, level 6. 
Object Quality (100 / 100 hps)<br.
Armor class is 3. 
Modifies mana by 5 continuous 

Mob: Kobold
Directions: From Sol 3es2en

[[Category:Mana Gear]]
[[Category:Lowmort 1-10 Gear]]
[[Category:Gear Witches Forest]]

Uniform

2005-07-19T19:40:54Z

Ilthik:

Object 'gnome gnimh uniform academy' type armor, extra flags none. 
Weight 5, value 30, level 10. 
Object Quality (100 / 100 hps) 
Armor class is 3. 
Modifies armor class by -5 continuous.
Modifies constitution by 1 continuous.
Modifies dexterity by 1 continuous.
 
 
Portal Point: Cadet 
 
Walking directions: 3e2n3e5n2ws to entrance of [[Village of Gnimh]]. From there, kill all the cadets until one gives you the right uniform. Not all the uniforms have constitution and dexterity bonuses. Use identify spell or ident command at [[Ent]] in [[Stonehall]] to make sure you have the right uniform. 

[[Category:Con Gear]]
[[Category:Dex Gear]]
[[Category:Lowmort 1-10 Gear]]

Sol

2005-07-19T19:33:18Z

Ilthik:

Sol is located in [[Stonehall]] and he is the default recall point for characters between levels 5 and 14. He is virtually identical to Nom, selling bandages, wax candles, and identify scrolls. He also sells healing spells if you type 'heal' in his presence, and will spell up players up to level 10(?) with armor and bless.

[[Category:Miscellaneous]]

Spiked Platemail

2005-07-19T19:29:40Z

Ilthik:

Modifies armor class by -8 continuous.
Slot: on body 
Base: 2-3 
Level: 10 
Weight: 30 
Mob: [[Fizzdop]] 
Area: [[:Category:Fizzdop's Lair|Fizzdop's Lair]] 

Mob is portable. Area is off of the [[:Category:White Stone Road|White Stone Road]], so it's not too far from [[Sol]]. There are no exits from Fizzdrop's Lair itself, so you must recall to get out.
[[Category:Lowmort 1-10 Gear]]
[[Category:Lowmort 11-20 Tank Gear]]
[[Category:Gear In Fizzdop's Lair]]

Nom

2005-07-19T19:28:28Z

Ilthik:

Located at the very center of the [[Meadow]], Nom is the eternal keeper of the [[Tree of Knowledge]]. He is the default recall point for characters levels 1-4. Also, he sells bandages, wax candles, and overpriced identify scrolls. If you type 'heal' in his presence you can get a list of healing spells that he offers, for a price.

[[Category:Miscellaneous]]

Slimy Ring

2005-07-19T19:22:26Z

Ilthik:

modifies hp by +6
modifies strength by +1
Slot: finger 
Level: 4 
Weight: 6 
Area: [[:Category:Murky Lair|Murky Lair]] 
Mob: green slime

Green slime is portable, however not all carry this ring. 
Path from Nom: 2 south, 4 east, north, 3 east, open d, down, west, 2 south, 2 west, look around for slime 
Beware! There is a dangerous, ''[[aggressive]]'' alligator in the center of the sewers.
[[Category:Lowmort 1-10 Gear]]
[[Category:Str Gear]]
[[Category:HP Gear]]

Aggressive Mobs

2005-07-19T19:21:31Z

Ilthik:

Aggressive creatures are those that will attack you without provocation. These can be very dangerous, especially at higher levels where many of them can detect invisible and/or detect hidden.

[[Category:Miscellaneous]]

Slimy Ring

2005-07-19T19:19:04Z

Ilthik:

Pink Ice Ring

2005-07-19T19:15:15Z

Ilthik:

Modifies strength by 1.
Modifies HP by 6.
Slot: Finger 
Base: 1-2 
Level: 1-2 
Mob: Dolls (old and Raggedy Ann) 
Area: [[:Category:Dwarven Daycare|Dwarven Daycare]] 

[[Category:Lowmort 1-10 Gear]]
[[Category:HP Gear]]
[[Category:Str Gear]]
[[Category:Dwarven Daycare]]
[[Category:Gear In Dwarven Daycare]]

Hooded Brass Lantern

2005-07-19T19:12:37Z

Ilthik:

Slot: Used as Light 
Weight: 1 

You can buy it from [[Jim the Peddler]], who is 2se of [[Nom]] for 13 gold. It lasts much longer than a candle.

[[Category:Lowmort 1-10 Gear]]